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As in "this 748 square foot property was deemed 'affordable' when priced at $610k" - the implication being that it's a low bar to call something affordable, not that it's a low bar to _actually be_ affordable.

edit: sorry, this was already said by multiple other people - apparently had an outdated thread in the browser, those comments weren't there when I hit reply!



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You're in agreement, they are additionally implying that the bar is much lower than you set it though.

"It isn't that high of a bar unfortunately." --> "It isn't that high of a bar."

That's what I mean. The bar is pretty low, and yet someone chose to go even lower.

He said "30-40K too low", as in "30-40K lower than I would reasonably expect".

"lowering the bar" has an actual meaning.

"To lower the standards of quality that are expected of or required for something." -- http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/lower+the+bar

If he didn't mean to say that, he should retract that phrase and apologize for saying something he didn't mean to say.

You getting "triggered" by people using the standard definition of a common idiom isn't helpful.

Parents often tell their children that a lie about what they did is worse than the original crime. I hope Mr. Damore didn't take this smug "I didn't actually say that women were inferior, it's all about preferences" tone that seems to be the first line of defence online, in his HR meetings only to be asked "So, what's this bit about race and the "science" of IQ you mentioned? Is IQ a preference?"

I'll note that the argument you present about Google only diversity-washing themselves at the cost of others having lower diversity, is the same argument that people make about their green energy efforts. In that area at least they've gone to great lengths to ensure that they actually improve the whole industry, not just steal the glory for themselves and I wouldn't be at all suprised if they had some very smart people ensuring the same was the case in this instance.


I read it as hyperbole that means "the bar for what's a good question to ask is really low."

Low as in much cheaper than equity no matter what.

"was lower but not in a significant way"

By convention, this means "indistinguishable from", so reporting that it is lower is an unsupported claim. They would be equally justified in reporting that it was higher, ie. not at all.


Reading fail on my part. I missed where they called it a lowball.

I understand that meaning, but it is very strange and confusing formulation. Just say it's 10x lower.

Low bar.

Good point. “Extremely low” would have been a better way to phrase it.

Wow that is a low bar.

Are you trying to say that 60k is low?

Yes that's an extremely low bar

Definition:

> To lower the standards of quality that are expected of or required for something

"or required for something".

I think it pretty much fits according to the definition, but it is usually used in terms of abilities or skills.

https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/lowering+the+bar


That's a pretty low bar, and over-use of the term weakens it.

That's low bar

That is a really low bar.
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