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They were talking about changing out engines for the planes, not the fuel.


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Better start would be petrol not aviation fuel

> There's so much fuel they cannot even land after takeoff without dumping it.

This is a false statement.


Err… not all the fuel goes in the wings, and not all planes put their fuel in the wings.

This argument makes no sense to me.


I think he is talking about GA 100L fuel. Which, as someone stated elsewhere, I think absolutely should be changed to 94UL across the board. I don't believe there is no possible way a small single prop GA plane simply cant run on unleaded gas. That seems eerily close to propaganda from Midgley himself. Some performance alteration without some small changes to the plane? Maybe. But cataosrophic outcomes even with some small changes? Highly unlikely.

Presumably they did that if the cost were an issue, the primary problem discussed in the article though is keeping weight balanced on the airplane so it doesn’t crash, not the cost of fuel.

Wait, airplanes don't already use unleaded fuel?

thats not true, fuel weight is about 1/3 of total plane weight.

Wrong. The jet is a matter of convenience. The fuel (source) being sufficiently inconvenient (expensive, illegal) would force alternative decisions.

Because they needed to be completely sure that they had a replacement fuel that wouldn't start making planes fall out of the sky.

Good question. Maybe they were too busy flying the airplane and could divert attention to dumping the fuel? Or maybe they need hydraulics to dump the fuel?

> Some aircraft even redistribute fuel between tanks to control stability and performance.

Aircraft have been doing that forever. Carefully managing the fuel flow from which tank has always been a task for the pilot.


Yes, they clearly mentioned that in the 30mins video. That's why fuel will be stored in the aft of the fuselage instead of the wings.

re: #2... because... ? Because they aren't going to stock a fuel that only applies to a handful of airplanes. The demand for it is near nil.

That would mean they have to carry fuel for the engines which they do not at the moment.

So yes, but you wouldn't want to


I think drop-in replacement fuel is the most realistic approach. The lifespan of aircraft and of some aircraft engines mean that your suggestion would require a large number of engine replacements and make it prohibitively expensive for the whole of GA.

This approach clearly can work, and is only not working because of an incompetent administrator.


>I heard that airliners can't land with a full load of fuel and they have to dump it to land in an emergency

I think the main reason they do that is that way there's less stuff to burn if there's a fire or explosion.


Boeing planes can dump fuel, iirc.

Bu the Cessna in the article wasn't being refuelled - it was over the ocean the entire time. The question was about fuel endurance, not mechanical or lubricants endurance, as in your example.

Dumping fuel has environmental impacts though, and could be a disaster if happened over a populated area. Maybe they decided it wasn't worth it considering the plane could safely be kept in a holding pattern.
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