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The number 0?


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But the number is >0!

0 is also a thing.

No, 0 is definitely a number.

Is zero a number?

Zero is a digit.

0=

Any number >0 means something was not real

It's really about using a 0 symbol in a positional numeral system. There was always the concept of nothing vs. something.

0 is also a digit

This -- "0" -- is the number "zero". Here is how you use it...

Wouldn't that be #0 ?

This. There's a reason the number 0 was only invented a couple of times. Human minds don't do well with the idea of nothing. It's not that there was nothing here - it's that there was no here.

what do the 0,0 mean here?

0 was not invented yet.

0 = 0

so it is 0, the real 0?

0 is a symbol, but that symbol has quite literally no value. It is special that way.

No, the problem is not '0' not being a concept. There are two issues here, which are related but not the same. The conecpt of 'nothingness' is irrelevant to both:

1) Dealing with '0' as an ordinary number.

2) Using a positional number system, which requires a symbol or context for telling '1230' from '1023' and '1203', etc.

One tends to think that solving the first issue leads to the second. Solving the second implies in some way having already solved the first, due to the nature of positional systems.


Are we counting from 0 or 1?
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