Are there any plans to offer larger batteries and/or improve battery efficiency? From what I've read battery life is still an issue many seem to be having.
With the greatest respect it's 2024, a laptop should be capable of 8 hours at the very minimum for a mid range model but I'm seeing a lot of people getting sub 2 hours.
The 16 ticks all the boxes for me but I've held off for now as having the possibility of worse battery life than my old 2015 mac isn't as you can imagine making for a compelling upgrade.
It would be nice if they could get close in terms of battery. Every windows laptop I’ve ever had including my current one I use for work has had a battery life of around 3 or 4 hours. Compared to my MacBook Air which can easily seem to go over 24.
So I have to read forums threads with 300+ messages in order to maybe improve the battery life. Yeah, thanks, but no thanks. I'll just buy a macbook. 2-3 hours battery lifetime in 2023 is a sad sad joke. I'm sorry, but if this is the best this framework laptop company can come up with...
I'm running a thinkpad with an 8 hour (theoretical) maximum battery life. Actually it's like 5 or 6. But the model from a year or two years before that would have only gotten 1-2 hours battery life.
So improvements are being made and we're seeing them. It's just slow going.
My Lenovo laptop gets better battery life under Linux than it did under Windows, and I've generally found the battery life estimations (for my use cases anyway) to be complete bullshit even under MacOS.
I'm excited to be able to upgrade to the M1 series Mac's as it sounds like I might actually get battery life, though I have the 2019 16" Pro and can't justify the upgrade just yet, even if that thing overheats with just a Slack video.
That's fine and I appreciate this progress, but right now performance is way below energy efficiency to me when choosing a laptop. My major question is, how long will the battery last between each charge. I just don't want to worry anymore about charging when travelling for a few hours.
But we already have notebooks with battery life for 2 work days which have very good performance like the M2 macbook air. And I highly doubt that it's the cpu that is the limiting factor for battery life and not the screen.
I'm not sure how much laptop companies are in control of the battery life of laptops. I mean, they could always add more batteries, but those cost weight and their doesn't seem to be a market for that. X86 CPUs, screens, and wifi connections all take up a certain amount of energy. I think most companies are doing the best with what they have to work with.
The real issue here is battery life. Only 6 hours? The new X1 carbon from Lenovo can get 9, the T440s can get up to 17 (with extended battery), and the MBA can get 12 right out of the box.
> a few years ago battery life was maybe 7 hours and now it’s 18
At what point do battery improvements become completely unnecessary? Who's out here using their laptops for 18 hours continuously? It's like an electric car that can go 2,000 miles on a single charge; YAGNI. The vast majority of people would be perfectly well-served by a smaller, lighter, less expensive laptop that cuts down the battery to just 10 hours.
Current intel ones supposedly have 10-12 hours of battery, and many times i find that they don't even get to 3 hours, leave open a browser tab that uses webgl or an app that uses the discrete graphic card, and you are doomed. At least on the 16" inch, I'm very disappointed with the battery life.
It’s amazing how far Linux has come, but it feels several years behind in terms of laptop battery life with default settings vs Apple Silicon laptop.
This is purely my impression, I have not run an apples to apples test. I just see sleep and hibernation and so forth as things people still tend to struggle with, especially if they are trying to get good battery life. As with anything on Linux, you can often make some real gains with sufficient research and time.
Basically it seems like Linux will always be several years behind on something and so it’s most likely to gain popularity when Apple and Microsoft stop figuring out how to make new laptops interesting.
I think the expectation for battery life for most these days is closer to what can be found on e.g. M-series MacBooks or in the x86 world, HP Dragonfly and some ASUS Zenbooks, which range between 14 and 22 hours.
With all the hype about the efficiency of ARM processors and Apple thinking of putting their custom designed processors in their laptops, I wonder if we'll ever get better battery life on our laptops.
I know nothing will be very significant, but I wish at least my laptop can stay for the whole day on battery.
> Unfortunately, even with this 84Wh battery, the battery life of the XPS 15 wasn't tremendous. The blame for this lies almost certainly with that large screen. Dell's own battery life estimates (which are in the same ballpark as ours, given some differences in testing methodology) suggest that swapping out the 4K panel for the 1080p one would extend battery life in similar workloads by 60 percent or more.
Why is Apple the only one that can build a 15" retina laptop with 9-10 hours of battery life?
With the greatest respect it's 2024, a laptop should be capable of 8 hours at the very minimum for a mid range model but I'm seeing a lot of people getting sub 2 hours.
The 16 ticks all the boxes for me but I've held off for now as having the possibility of worse battery life than my old 2015 mac isn't as you can imagine making for a compelling upgrade.
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