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> The idea that you can perform poorly if you are paid less is not really true.

Can confirm from my experience. The greater the salary, the better the working conditions. Companies that paid as little as possible also tried to squeeze out as much work as possible.



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> They get less pay while putting in more effort.

Who said anything about getting paid less? A salary is a salary.


> the salary is just the manifestation of the value the company places in the individual

My experience confirms this. The least paid jobs I had were also the most stressful.


> Shouldn’t a company pay what a job is worth to them

No, they pay just enough for you to accept working there. If your alternatives are worse than your colleagues because you don't have high-paying local options, you'll be paid less.


> why should they pay me less or more dependent on variables external to my actual work.

They won’t pay you more in the long term. In the short term, they may be trying out candidates willing to work for cheaper. If they notice cheaper employees are available and providing the same utility, then I would bet the more expensive employees are on the chopping block.


> Clearly you're very good at what you do. Speak to the folks at your company and help them help you make the situation better.

I'm in a very similar position (less money, but in a much cheaper country, so I still make about 40x minimum wage). I think in my case partially the reason why the company is paying me so much is precisely because the overall conditions there are so shitty, not because I'm some genius. So, as soon as they improve the conditions, they can start paying less.


> It's so much better to work for 1/2 as long for 3x the salary than twice as long for 1/3 of the salary.

Not necessarily. It's not better if your work is making your life 3x worse, for instance.


>Also, studies seem to find that money doesn't motivate people to perform at a higher level.

What that really means is that if you're paying $200k now, bumping to $250k isn't going to make your workers more productive. However, if you're paying $200k now and you cut the pay to $180k, and your competitors are offering $230k, your best performers are still going to jump ship.


> It will force management to have better salary policies.

Totally agreed. Quite often the reason X gets paid more than Y is that X demanded the money and had the social power to get away with it.

This is, of course, a really bad idea. If one believes in salary as any sort of incentive for specific behavior, then it encourages people being aggressive and demanding. It also encourages people to create situations where they are necessary, irreplaceable, and noticed due to regular heroics. While discouraging people from being polite, unassuming, dedicated team players who work hard to share knowledge, improve truck factor, and invest in long-term sustainability.


>Paying employees more is supposed to work because it results in employees who do their job better.

I'm sure above certain threshold, which is probably low, raising wages doesn't make employees do their job any better.

In other words, unless you pay your workers literally peanuts, they will do the same job more or less.


> Isn't it the case that with this sort of system that if you increase your skills, your company is more profitable and therefore you all get paid more?

Your reward is not commensurate with the opportunity cost of improving your output. It gets worse with larger companies.


> Why would you work for less.

Because I am more than comfortable on my engineer salary and being a manager would make me miserable.


> generally people treat you better and have more reasonable expectations if they are paying you more

This is true in most settings, from office jobs to the service industry.

Always good to remind yourself that usually professional respect comes from your salary, not the other way around.


> I feel too underpaid to be stressed. In that sense, being underpaid is much more of a good thing than a bad thing, since my performance is good enough

Being underpaid allows me to switch jobs very easy so that I don't have to compromise on my values. I now see the ones being overpaid as being in a trap.


> Anyone else see an issue with this comment? We don’t know how to value the work of a corporate employee but we’re simultaneously all being paid less than we’re worth.

Think of it as a general rule of thumb, a statistical average. You will for example find that often managers and executives make a crazy amount of money, but are all but useless, but are only a small part of the bigger company.


> Seriously, having lower salary does not make people care more.

It does, when coupled with variable pay they could lose if their project doesn't work out.

> There are plenty of lazy people who don't care who are not paid maximum possible.

And those lazy people will then find jobs at other big companies, where they don't have to work hard and still make more, more appealing.


> I have a hard time worrying about if my wages were lower than they "should" be when they're already more money than I'd see in any other field.

Never get complacent. Always demand more. Give it away if you don't need it, but get what you're worth.


> People who are willing to negotiate should get a higher salary.

Most people's take is that people who perform better should get a higher salary. While negotiation helps prevent you from being underpaid, it very often[1] is the reason people who perform poorer are getting a higher salary.

[1] As in, every single place I've worked.


>But generally I've found the higher paying jobs are usually better anyway.

This doesn't work if you have several years of experience and senior responsibilities, but are paid significantly less than entry level employees.

It's a catch-22, because getting paid more means being severely demoted.

And this has nothing to do with small companies, there are lots more people working as low paid prostitutes at big, shitty, but obscure companies.


> A more valuable employee is going to tend to have better wages.

I disagree. Wages are a proxy for your value, but not a very accurate one. Among my circle of friends, I've seen 2 of them get significantly different offers for doing very similar jobs. One can negotiate very well; the other is a total nerd. Both are comparable in ability. The negotiator makes nearly 2x as much as the other guy.

There is a lot more to compensation than just your "value to the company".

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