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I'd suspect they're just trying to start over - Bard kinda got pegged as Google's dumb, not-as-good, late-to-the-party clone of ChatGPT. It got teased a lot. I'm not sure Gemini is much different (still more impressed with GPT 3.5 & 4) but I guess the name change gives them a bit of a reset.


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This isn’t history as I remember it. It’s also not history as the product announcement for bard reads.

Bard was explicitly a smaller (cheaper) version of their model. They always said they had a bigger and better one behind the curtain (now called Gemini I guess). I expected bard to be simpler than ChatGPT because they said it’d be small and simple. I guess that still means it’s disappointing 1:1 though.

The notable feature of the model that Bard has over ChatGPT (at least at time of launch) was daily updates keeping it way better for current information and events. Of course, Google has a lot more internal APIs they can/are leverage (eg search, drive, etc) so today bard has a different focus than just talking to a big model.


> To reflect this, Bard will now simply be known as Gemini. So glad they are dropping the name Bard which is not a smooth modern sounding name one would want to talk to all day. Time will tell if they update eventually to be hey Gemini vs hey Google.

isnt gemini the new thing? but for me, Bard works better than the new ChatGPT (not the old one though)

Apparently they’re killing / renaming Bard, because Google gonna Google. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/google-reportedly-rebr...

I had the same issue as OP. Initially Bard seemed clueless about Gemini, then:

Me: I see. Google made an announcment today saying that Bard was now using a fine-tuned version of their "Gemini" model

Bard: That's correct! As of December 6, 2023, I am using a fine-tuned version of Google's Gemini model ...


It's not even a year, they have already rebranded Bard as Gemini! That's hilarious.

While I have found that ChatGPT pretty regularly outperforms Bard, I still run my questions through both, because sometimes Bard has a different angle that I like better.

I kinda liked the name “Bard”. It fit. Gemini is going to make me think of ancient rockets and ostentatious claims.


The move from bard to gemini seems especially dumb to me.

I never know what anyone is talking about when a headline mentions gemini. I usually have to start reading the article before I realize it's about Google's Gemini AI. Didn't have that issue with Bard.


Most likely the latter. Either Google has a better model which they disguise as Bard to make up for the bad press Bard has received, or Google doesn't really have a better model—just a Gemini Pro fine tuned on GPT-4 data to sound like GPT-4 and rank high in the leaderboard.

Now that Bard is Gemini, it's going to be impossible to find any information on the Gemini protocol/Gemini clients/Gemini sites. It's not very nice for Google to use the same name.


rebranding to Gemini was the right move IMHO and should've been done before the Bard branding. What do you want instead? "Google Assistant with Bard on Gemini Ultra 2" ? I'd prefer the "Google Gemini" branding better

So just in case people forget. Bard initially launched with the lamda model (the one that got that guy fired) [1]

Bard was soundly mocked for how bad it was and they relaunched it with the Palm2 Model[2].

I suspect at some time in the near future, if they haven't done so already, they'll just quietly move Bard's underlying language model to Gemini.

[1] https://blog.google/technology/ai/bard-google-ai-search-upda... [2] https://blog.google/technology/ai/google-palm-2-ai-large-lan...


Bard was a strange name... Gemini might be better... Stop changing the name?

I was confused too. If Bard is Google's version of ChatGPT, their landing page is an interesting way to position the product.

No no, they renamed Bard to Gemini and Gemini Ultra to Ultra 1.0.

How much of this is about chatGPT? Because Bard got a big upgrade yesterday, right?

And does Google use Nvidia hardware on Gemini?


Did I get this right?

Bard – old name of their generative AI service, to be called Gemini

Duet AI – old name for their generative AI in Google Workspace, to be called Gemini

Gemini – three things: 1. the name of their models (like GPT). 2. the new name of their free service (like ChatGPT), gives access to Pro 1.0 but not Ultra 1.0. 3. the new name of the Generative AI tools in Google Workspace.

Gemini Advanced – the name of their paid service (like ChatGPT premium), gives access to both Pro 1.0 and Ultra 1.0

Ultra 1.0 – the first version of their big model (like GPT-4)

Pro 1.0 – the first version of their smaller model (like GPT-3.5)

Google One AI Premium – the subscription that you need to buy to have access to Gemini Advanced

Google One Premium – the old version of the subscription, does not include access to Gemini Advanced

Google app – the mobile phone app, which includes either Gemini or Gemini Advanced

Google Assistant – like Siri but hard to define what it is

Google AI – a generic name for all their AI products


how long until Gemini is killed off and replaced by another AI tool with a new name?

They did it with Bard. Why not again?

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