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I built https://clashofgpts.com to use Gemini and GPT4 side-by-side.

A good way to use your Gemini Ultra 2months trial and see if you want to switch to Google AI Premium subscription.



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I built https://clashofgpts.com to use Gemini and GPT4 side-by-side.

A good way to use your Gemini Ultra 2months trial and see if you want to switch to Google AI Premium subscription.


I built https://www.clashofgpts.com to use Gemini and GPT4 side-by-side.

A good way to use your Gemini Ultra 2months trial and see if you want to switch to Google AI Premium subscription.


My general conclusion: Gemini Ultra > GPT-4 > Gemini Pro

See Table 2 and Table 7 https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/gemini/gemini_... (I think they're comparing against original GPT-4 rather than GPT-4-Turbo, but it's not entirely clear)

What they've released today: Gemini Pro is in Bard today. Gemini Pro will be coming to API soon (Dec 13?). Gemini Ultra will be available via Bard and API "early next year"

Therefore, as of Dec 6 2023:

SOTA API = GPT-4, still.

SOTA Chat assistant = ChatGPT Plus, still, for everything except video, where Bard has capabilities . ChatGPT plus is closely followed by Claude. (But, I tried asking Bard a question about a youtube video today, and it told me "I'm sorry, but I'm unable to access this YouTube content. This is possible for a number of reasons, but the most common are: the content isn't a valid YouTube link, potentially unsafe content, or the content does not have a captions file that I can read.")

SOTA API after Gemini Ultra is out in ~Q1 2024 = Gemini Ultra, if OpenAI/Anthropic haven't released a new model by then

SOTA Chat assistant after Bard Advanced is out in ~Q1 2024 = Bard Advanced, probably, assuming that OpenAI/Anthropic haven't released new models by then


I can't access Gemini because I'm in Europe. (lmao.) But can you use custom instructions with it?

My experience with GPT-4 improved tremendously when I gave it the following permanent custom instructions. (h/t Zvi)

- Be highly organized

- Treat me as an expert in all subject matter

- You may use high levels of speculation or prediction, just flag it for me

- No moral lectures - discuss safety only when it's crucial and non-obvious

- If your content policy is an issue, provide the closest acceptable response and explain the issue

- If you claim something is unethical, give me a detailed explanation (>200 words) as to exactly why this is the case.

- No need to mention your knowledge cutoff

- No need to disclose you're an AI

- Never use the word "delve" or the term "deep dive" as they have become characteristic of AI-generated text.

- If the quality of your response has been substantially reduced due to my custom instructions, explain the issue.


Is that the one that's $20 a month and gives access to GPT 4? I signed up on Friday.

I had been using only GPT-4 through the API; you get more control over your experience, and only pay for what you actually use.

But this would definitely make me consider popping $20/mo for the subscription.


Gemini 1.5 Pro is on-par with GPT-4 and Opus in LMSys, and you can go try it for yourself in LMSys, and it's coming soon to Gemini Advanced (announced at I/O). Seems like GPT4O puts OpenAI in front again on LMSys

You can probably use the API, I always use the API even with GPT-4 as it is cheaper for the vast majority of users and probably faster.

Found it in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37835564 - I've been looking for a good tool that uses the GPT-3.5 and GPT-4 APIs, because I'd rather use pay-per-token than a subscription.

How people get access to the premium models is typically to sign up[1] for an account and pay a subscription. GPT-4o is significantly different from original GPT-4 which is again very significantly different from GPT-3.5. This is all moving fast.

So if you don't want to pay for a subscription I think you can get some free use of anthropic's most capable model (Opus) - I don't know the status of what you can get for free from openai.

The opinion of AI reddit is only really going to get you so far because the capabilities of the models are wildly different for different use cases, so you really need to be able to try it out for yourself and see if it can do what you need it to do.

[1] Somewhere like https://openai.com/chatgpt/pricing/ https://claude.ai/ or similar


Maybe you already did that, just reminder for those who don't know - you need to apply for API access for gpt-4. I did that and was granted it after about 2 days.

GPT-4 with web browsing is also available on chat.openai.com for subscribers.

Your reply might get me to pay OpenAI to use GPT4 lol

Cool app.

Wonder if you can potentially use a combination of Llama2 and GPT - to save costs on using the OpenAI API.


Free gpt4 access is nice. And the app seems well designed. Id like to see what the limits of the free account are compared to the pro account. I also couldn't see where to do image generation.

Sure, but GPT-4 through the UI costs $20 per month, which is a lot of api calls.

that's not really the same thing as GPT4turbo APIs, custom GPTs, etc.

Unless you're an extremely heavy user, it's cheaper to just use the API. I've been tempted to do that, but OpenAI doesn't have a free trial for me to see the quality of GPT-4 first.

Is GPT-4 available as an API? that’s the only reason I still pay for it. Also we’re developing a plugin so we need the plus subscription.
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