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EchoChamberMan · 2024-02-27 13:10:09

Sorry what? I'm saying Deno suffers due to Node backward compatibility. A write up about it:

https://www.baldurbjarnason.com/2024/disillusioned-with-deno...

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paulddraper | karma 16686 | avg karma 1.72 · | 2023-05-26 10:34:09

> deno does not have any inherent advantages over node if they support node

Could you be more specific about how this harms deno? It is just "cruft"?

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mark_and_sweep | karma 525 | avg karma 4.1 · | 2023-02-13 02:11:23

> Deno seems to be a solution looking for a problem

On the contrary. Ryan Dahl, the person who created node, came up with deno, specifically to address a number of problems (or regrets) he had with node: see https://youtu.be/M3BM9TB-8yA.

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ehhthing | karma 340 | avg karma 3.62 · | 2024-02-05 04:17:17

Deno wasn't originally designed to be node compatible, but I think they realized nobody would want to switch to it because node is so prevalent already...

wyuenho | karma 1999 | avg karma 3.01 · | 2023-08-24 07:47:50

Is that still the case tho? Recent Deno releases have obscured how well it's Node compatibility mode is, I was just wondering if you have more details.

Etheryte | karma 9322 | avg karma 4.55 · | 2023-08-24 05:14:12

While it is sad, I can't help but agree. I've spent many, many years working with Node and tried picking up Deno recently. The small cuts quickly add up where getting even some of the official examples to work takes effort because they're ever so slightly out of date and things have changed in the interim.

ascorbic | karma 5702 | avg karma 3.85 · | 2022-06-22 02:21:03

That's not a fair reply. One of the main benefits of Deno is that they're using existing standards. It's Node that's the outlier.

EchoChamberMan | karma 411 | avg karma 1.38 · | 2024-02-27 12:14:16

Pretty sure Deno for Node has similar problems. Sometimes you just gotta let the past go.

29athrowaway | karma 2447 | avg karma 0.53 · | 2020-07-11 17:08:33

It also reintroduces one of the main problems of node back into deno. https://youtu.be/M3BM9TB-8yA?t=581

lloydatkinson | karma 2342 | avg karma 1.51 · | 2022-08-14 11:38:47

I think it’s really unfair to Deno as thats existed for many years and gets ignored meanwhile a hobby project is being touted as “the node replacement”.

eevilspock | karma 3839 | avg karma 2.21 · | 2021-04-14 02:11:08+00:00

You realize Deno is founded by Ryan Dahl, who founded Node 12 years ago, don't you?

Perhaps you should be less quick to label anything about it "asinine" or even "awful hack".

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skyfaller | karma 1021 | avg karma 3.56 · | 2020-11-17 18:00:12

What about Deno, rather than Node? (I know almost nothing about either, sorry if this is a stupid question.)

conaclos | karma 1004 | avg karma 3.69 · | 2022-08-14 06:16:14

The post is wrong about Deno's node comparability. Deno has actually a node compat mode [1]

[1] https://deno.land/manual/node/compatibility_mode

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NonNefarious | karma 385 | avg karma 0.61 · | 2022-07-30 22:21:47

Node has been superseded by Deno, right? How about that?

tracker1 | karma 11460 | avg karma 1.11 · | 2023-05-16 16:23:00

I've been pretty happy with Deno... mostly in personal use... still some rough bits in terms of Node compatibility but pretty good in general.

thawkins | karma 349 | avg karma 1.61 · | 2020-03-16 17:47:24+00:00

Time to get behind Deno

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deno_(software)

Built by the node team to replace node.

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rr888 | karma 1213 | avg karma 2.07 · | 2022-11-14 08:13:31

What was the other node alternative that was faster? I was going to try it out, but can't remember it. Deno seems too much of a change.

stereocodes | karma 50 | avg karma 1.47 · | 2022-02-02 12:33:21

Yup the point I'm making is its built in. no hoops no babel. I find myself gravitating towards Deno before Node because with node I know I'll have to do some hoop jumping to make it work.

andrew_ | karma 5697 | avg karma 4.12 · | 2021-04-21 09:21:21

I suspect the reply was snide, masked by a smiley face, but here ya go anyhow. First result on Google for "deno vs node" https://www.imaginarycloud.com/blog/deno-vs-node/#:~:text=Wh...) that covers the basics of all three asked points.

faitswulff | karma 8583 | avg karma 4.66 · | 2023-03-20 11:10:16

From what I remember, Dahl considered node_modules one of the big blunders, which afaict they have avoided with Deno.