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ukd1 · 2024-03-20 17:01:55

really? unless they're jamming it, how would that happen?

freehunter | karma 23077 | avg karma 2.83 · | 2015-01-08 14:38:21+00:00

Technically it's not really jamming. It's not shutting down the frequency, it's just resetting every connection. It's a denial of service attack.

N0RMAN | karma 766 | avg karma 13.44 · | 2018-08-09 22:30:40

Wouldn't a jammer do the thing?

p1necone | karma 8650 | avg karma 3.6 · | 2020-08-12 04:43:29+00:00

Can't they just jam the frequencies instead?

phinnaeus | karma 1108 | avg karma 3.61 · | 2017-07-24 22:21:45

Wouldn't that effectively be jamming the AP at that point?

Ajedi32 | karma 11678 | avg karma 4.23 · | 2017-06-16 20:34:36+00:00

That'd be illegal, so I kinda doubt it. Not to mention that jammers are pretty easy to detect with the right equipment so it'd be fairly easy to prove if they were doing something like that.

hattmall | karma 1806 | avg karma 1.9 · | 2024-01-10 11:58:09

I think it's just a very large area and jamming is far from fool proof.

ChrisLTD | karma 2670 | avg karma 3.66 · | 2011-12-06 18:25:33+00:00

That's my understanding as well, but they could try some surreptitious methods that would stop shy of using an actual jammer.

sern | karma 575 | avg karma 6.93 · | 2012-01-07 11:30:45+00:00

Nevertheless, it's still possible to jam (see LightSquared). I actually think this is how Iran did it.

walshemj | karma 4980 | avg karma 0.65 · | 2017-02-18 11:02:36

which could probably be knocked out by a simple jammer

fake-name | karma 1886 | avg karma 3.88 · | 2018-08-06 18:31:28

Selective jamming like that is really hard to do, verging on impossible.

gsich | karma 1325 | avg karma 0.48 · | 2018-06-28 01:24:42+00:00

I know it's part of the "CIA" stuff, but I don't see it as a vulnerability in this specific case. Jamming affects all devices, not just "secure" ones.

Also, there is no countermeasure against it, which makes it even less a security vulnerability.

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danielhlockard | karma 183 | avg karma 1.91 · | 2018-12-27 07:22:15+00:00

They can jam the other frequencies so that they aren't available.

CRConrad | karma 2469 | avg karma 0.51 · | 2021-07-17 18:10:24

Maybe it's the ham radio jamming that causes it? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27857290

csbrooks | karma 938 | avg karma 3.71 · | 2014-10-03 16:29:25+00:00

I'm guessing, but that might be a few orders of magnitude more expensive than just using a jamming device.

krisoft | karma 10715 | avg karma 3.98 · | 2020-02-16 11:18:47+00:00

Uhm, this thing jams with ultra-sound and not with radio waves. Are you sure we have laws against that too?

Wouldn't surprise me either way.

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glitchc | karma 3920 | avg karma 2.41 · | 2024-01-11 00:19:33

Jamming is akin to a Denial of Service attack. It disrupts the channel. Cryptography cannot solve it.

wglb | karma 64679 | avg karma 7.38 · | 2015-11-12 02:01:24

Jamming is not a relevant term.

Interference is, and it is illegal.

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Dylan16807 | karma 31639 | avg karma 1.39 · | 2022-12-26 12:47:43

It's not jammed, it's dealing with a high noise floor and a weak signal.

You can only do so much to identify your own signal when it's smeared over a trillion water droplets.

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lazide | karma 9657 | avg karma 1.51 · | 2022-10-04 19:29:18

Anti-jamming is as illegal as jamming, unfortunately.