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osigurdson · 2024-04-11 13:06:59

It is funny when you know neither A or B in A is the B of C claims.

LanceH | karma 6224 | avg karma 3.09 · | 2013-10-11 14:28:13

He's not making that claim, merely pointing out that the claim isn't mutually exclusive to the other claim.

teawrecks | karma 916 | avg karma 1.11 · | 2022-05-05 21:23:25

So to sum it up this exchange:

Person1: A

You: This sounds like B, which is fallacious.

Person2: A

You: Again...this sounds like B, which is fallacious.

Me: No one is claiming B

You: I never said anyone claimed B. I said this sounds like B.

Sound about right?

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dionidium | karma 7158 | avg karma 2.87 · | 2017-05-02 14:47:18+00:00

Obviously I meant to say that's not my claim :)

drilldrive | karma 149 | avg karma 0.88 · | 2020-11-13 21:14:22+00:00

Just taken a bit off guard: do you not dispute the other claim?

amackera | karma 1585 | avg karma 3.37 · | 2008-11-07 18:22:49+00:00

Hah! Fair enough, but my point was that those claims aren't legitimate. Especially those claims about C

nyolfen | karma 5410 | avg karma 2.9 · | 2021-12-25 23:00:09

these are not mutually exclusive claims

r_smart | karma 890 | avg karma 1.95 · | 2016-11-29 20:03:15+00:00

Step two is to demonstrate how these claims don't apply to the other choice.

o_____________o | karma 1212 | avg karma 2.76 · | 2016-03-01 17:14:48

  NON SEQUITUR
  Claim A is made.
  Evidence is presented for Claim A.
  Therefore, claim C is true.

http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/index.php/logical-fallaci...

stretchwithme | karma 5432 | avg karma 1.79 · | 2013-03-07 22:54:58+00:00

Unproven Claim A is true for the same reason that Unproven Claim B is true.

2OEH8eoCRo0 | karma 10664 | avg karma 1.95 · | 2024-04-05 20:58:35

Speaking of claiming things without proof...

gertef | karma 820 | avg karma 1.83 · | 2013-03-19 23:08:33+00:00

That's a claim, not a proof.

chris_wot | karma 14762 | avg karma 1.71 · | 2019-08-31 09:28:38+00:00

Which negates the statement “neither can claim to be true”.

dvfjsdhgfv | karma 6493 | avg karma 1.85 · | 2022-09-25 14:58:01

You make a claim without substantiating it.

ekianjo | karma 34827 | avg karma 2.44 · | 2020-09-24 09:16:12+00:00

Claiming it does not make it so.

afavour | karma 16680 | avg karma 6.11 · | 2021-02-10 14:30:30+00:00

That is

a) not the same as the original claim

b) not evidence

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testname123 | karma 1 | avg karma 0.5 · | 2018-04-24 13:02:37+00:00

While not applicable for all claims, some can be verified by consistency. For example, claims a and b cannot both be true if a is inconsistent with b, and this hold regardless of who claims a or b.

dotnet00 | karma 7004 | avg karma 2.9 · | 2023-08-28 17:23:24

Asserting something does not make it true.

keithalewis | karma 104 | avg karma 0.24 · | 2021-08-13 07:49:24

Did they make a claim that is not true?

Arnt | karma 6341 | avg karma 1.66 · | 2020-09-15 11:46:00+00:00

No, A says it does, and you claim B says, without presenting evidence.