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Then it's just a matter of evolution in action.

And while it doesn't take a God to start evolution, it would take a God to stop it.



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Evolution isn't directed.

It's not a cause, sure. But I have never heard the word evolution defined to not apply to the process. Do you have a better reference I could read?

No, in the theological context evolution - the means by which God creates - is irrelevant.

Feel free to take part in evolution yourself, but leave the rest of us out of it. I feel no allegiance to evolution as a cause or god; it's just a natural process.

The one description that makes most sense to me is the claim that evolution is not a god. It does not reason through issues, it does not have conscience and it definitely does not have goals.

It is just a thing that happens through random changes and culling out very bad experiments. The mutation just have to be not too bad. And even bad one can survive forever if not everyone with it dies.


You seem to think that evolution is both an intelligent and controllable process. It isn't.

I never quite understood why many religious people have a problem with Evolution. If God created everything, surely he could create Evolution as well.

Evolution is a result, not a method. Nothing ever evolves to do anything.

Being pedantic here...

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Evolution is not a process, it is an effect. Evolution does not cause things to happen. Genetic mutation is the reason life evolved.

Just had to say that.


I heard an interview where Dawkins said something like "if there is a God, He must have evolved." Maybe he was joking, but it didn't sound like it.

Evolution is a biological process. It would have no bearing on a being who created space and time.

Biologists should not presume to trump philosophy and theology, any more than preachers should dictate which biological theories are acceptable.


Because the existence or nonexistence of god has nothing whatsoever to do with evolution?

Exactly. Evolution can't explain evolution.

You're operating off of the false assumption that evolution contradicts the existence of a God.

You got lost in the meta. There's a difference between someone's beliefs about evolution, which might be true, false, or nonexistent; versus evolution itself, which is a force that will act on us regardless of what we believe.

Are we evolved to have religion? Maybe, but the answer to that has absolutely nothing to do with the question of whether or not evolution itself is true.


I was not suggesting that evolution does not exists at all in religions but rather that is actively fight back by its participants.

That is not how evolution works.

That's not how evolution works...

I very much believe evolution has a higher purpose. Nothing alive would exist if it didn't. It's not nice, though... [1]

Unfortunately, whether it's just physics, a simulation, or aliens, it's bad news in every case, and I don't see myself relating to the view that evolution is beautiful or has any interest whatsoever in moral progress anytime soon.

[1] http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/08/17/the-goddess-of-everythi...


The process of evolution doesn't have a "purpose" or "intent".
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