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> That 200B USD is responsible for major part of the 100T USD

We are the world’s largest oil producer [1].

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_pro...



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> it is not a massive net exporter of it, because it consumes a lot

Wrong [1]. We are the world's largest producer and 4th-largest exporter, halfway to Saudi Arabia and three quarters to Russia.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_expor...


> We don't (net) sell it

We export a metric fuck tonne of it; half as much as Saudi Arabia [1].

> we don't sell very much the world wants

We’re the world’s second-largest exporter [2].

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_exp...

[2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_exports


>I've never heard of China having their own oil fields

China is the world's fourth largest oil producer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_produ...


> Norway, sitting on gigantic oil reserves

The US is currently producing more oil than any country at any time in history. [1].

Also the US has much, much larger reserves than Norway [2] Norway has 0.31% of the world's oil, the US has 2.1%

So I'm not sure why Norway's oil has anything to do with this discussion.

[1] https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/19/business/us-production-oil-re...

[2] https://www.worldometers.info/oil/oil-reserves-by-country/


>If we stop processing massive amounts of oil(as will happen soon)

What makes you think oil processing will decline soon? It seems like we have an ever-increasing appetite for the stuff (with a possible exception in Norweigan production) [1].

[1] https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/oil-production-by-country


> the world is not getting off oil

It’s destroying demand at a massive clip, if the IEA is to be believed [1]. With Riyadh’s elevated break-even price [2] that doesn’t leave them a lot of time.

[1] https://www.axios.com/2024/06/12/oil-peak-demand-iea-project...

[2] https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/SAUPZPIOILBEGUSD


> We buy and use their oil

We actually buy a very small amount these days. US is a net exporter.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=M...


> the US has become oil rich and indeed the world’s biggest oil producer — achieved under Trump by the way

This is some intense shilling. For better or worse, the trend of US oil production just continued under Trump.

https://www.macrotrends.net/2562/us-crude-oil-production-his...


> The US hasn't been dependent on foreign oil for years.

Years? No:

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-produc...

Last year, yes, for the first time since 1949. But even in 2020, we were importing more crude oil than we were exporting. The difference was due to the refined products that we exported.


> the US-Saudi relationship.

Less of an issue than it used to be. The US is now a net oil exporter.[1]

[1] https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-produc...


> because we are running out of oil, the precious and finite resource that is utterly destroying our planet.

Not really running out. The US is the largest oil producing nation in the world now, and our output is at the highest levels[1] in history. Oil is practically dirt cheap and I don't see it breaking out in price anytime soon.

[1] https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=M...


> We buy and use their oil

Although that is true, the US imports less and less oil from Saudi. In fact, it’s been dropping steeply since shale oil became cheaper in 2014 and we haven’t imported less from Saudi since the oil glut of the mid-1980s.[1] I don’t think the US stopping Saudi oil imports is going to worry them as China is their major market now and China is another repressive regime. We should stop protecting their shipping though as we do for the entire globe still.

1: https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=M...


> frankly, too US-centric

Try buying petroleum from OPEC in anything but USD: https://www.opec.org/opec_web/en/data_graphs/40.htm

Corollary: http://www.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/meast/10/30/iraq.un.euro.reut/


This little diddy jumped off the page at me:

"Goldman Sachs (GS) predicts that by 2017 the U.S. will be the world’s biggest oil producer."

How accurate is this statement? Is the reason the gasoline prices here are so high ($3.89 here this weekend) is because we don't have enough refineries to convert oil into gas?

*edited for grammar.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/28/business/energy-environme... (see quotes from Yergin and others explaining why they think that US exporting has economic impacts on OPEC and other exporters).

> US oil is fracked

About two thirds [1].

> the US runs on diesel. We don't produce much heavy oil so we import it

Diesel is a medium-weight distillate; we can turn light oil into it fine. We refine most of our diesel and import the balance from Canada [2].

> Fracking, anyway, is an economic mirage enabled by cheap credit and expensive oil

Our production costs mirror Russia’s [3][4]. (They’re dwarfed by Saudi Arabia’s fiscal break even.)

Consider citing your comments. I’ve sometimes started writing something as riddled with errors as yours, only to find myself corrected when searching for citations.

[1] https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=847&t=6

[2] https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/diesel-fuel/where-our-di...

[3] https://www.statista.com/statistics/748207/breakeven-prices-...

[4] https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/At-What-Level-Will-Sau...


> Has it got bigger?

Yep: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_the_United_S...

Doesn't look like enough on its own to justify a change in reporting that much though.


> the cost of extracting oil is so high in Iran

I think you might be reading that wrong. It isn’t that the cost of extracting the oil is so high, but that the budgets of these countries depends on the price of oil being high. When the price drops, they can no longer cover their entire budget and will need to borrow or reduce their spending.

These numbers aren’t related to the cost of extraction (which is a different issue but is also variable between different regions).


> A number of countries have decoupled economic growth from energy use, even if we take offshored production into account

https://ourworldindata.org/energy-gdp-decoupling

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