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Tor is a bandaid. We need a truly p2p infrastructure.


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We already have this - it's called Tor and I2P.

Net architecture needs to go Tor-style.

Tor isn't the answer, it's broken. What's needed is a replacement for the modern web. At the protocol level it's busted in so many ways it isn't salvageable. The sooner we recognize that the sooner we'll be able to create its replacement.

Tor needs a mechanism for P2P, like ephemeral .onion addresses. Then it could just run over Tor which is already a proven anonymity technology.

There is already a P2P program called OnionShare that uses the TOR network. Never used it, but journalists and activists supposedly use it.

If it doesn't exist yet, we create this. I vote to call it TOR.

I sure wish Tor would absorb the best of I2P.

It's time to start using Tor.

I don't mean only for browsing the web. I mean it's time to have services in Tor:

- We need a Youtube in Tor that won't censor a video because it's an unauthorized remix of some other music videos.

- We need a Twitter in Tor where users don't get subpoenaed.

- We need a Facebook in Tor where I can use a pseudonym if I want to.

- We need a Gmail in Tor where messages won't be so easily eavesdropped by Governments.

- We need services in Tor that won't need to fear patent trolls.

PG, please unblock Tor for HN.


Sure, Tor and I2P are great. Tor Browser Bundle even tries to be useful to the average person. And yet, I still think there's work to be done. I'm thinking we need a new application platform entirely.

There are some contenders for that, but progress has been slow.


Tor isn't really P2P since messages need to go through Tor's network of routers.

Why should they? Tor is already there.

Tor, I2P.

This situation can't be improved. Start using Tor.

The only solution is onion routing AKA Tor and similar.

I suggest the use of Tor.

Great idea. The main problem with TOR is the lack of nodes, so transferring any file will be very slow.

Such as Tor?

I'm not saying use the Tor network but rather implement the protocol on a custom, provider-specific infrastructure.

How about Tor
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