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> No LTE doesn't affect people on non-LTE networks (eg all of Ireland)

Eg, all of T-Mobile, which is the only official launch partner for the Nexus 4 in the US.



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I'm still interested by the fate of LTE in the Nexus 4- it has the hardware for it, but it's manually disabled. When T-Mobile launch their LTE network it'll be interesting to see if any hacks will re-enable it. It could end up being one of the first technically unlicensed LTE devices.

T-Mobile is turning on LTE in 2013. It looks like the Nexus 4 was designed to be ready for it.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6474/nexus-4-includes-support-... Looks like the LTE does, in fact, work for "band 4 AWS". This is said to be the band T-Mobile will be deploying LTE in next year.

I'm not sure LTE is much more than a no-brainer for anything handheld going forward from Q3. Somehow it seems the Nexus 4 ended up with two (or possibly even three LTE) implementations on the circuit board and it's not even an advertised feature.

If US carriers insist on locking down 4G LTE onto expensive multi-year contract subsidized devces, Intel may not have to worry for another generation. So the real wildcard here is, I think, T-Mobile.


So, the takeaway for US AT&T customers is that they may potentially roll out LTE on a band that the Nexus 4 supports, but it hasn't yet?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think most people have an LTE phone.

ArsTechnica (IIRC) had LTE working on their Nexus 4 in Canada. The chipset is fine, the phone simply doesn't have the power amplifiers required for all the LTE bands.

Yes, people on r/nexus5 are saying they got LTE activated without much issue.

I'm planning to switch to ST when my AT&T contract expires.


> I also consider the lack of LTE to be a feature. LTE chipsets are still immature

Not to mention the speeds with LTE are not actually that much faster than T-Mo's HSPA+, especially now that there are lots of iPhone 5s in the wild using up LTE bandwidth: http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/31/3582684/the-nexus-4-the-v... (the data in the post is pre-iPhone 5, so the LTE speeds will be much slower than even that now)


I am very excited about the new Nexus, and because of this I want to take additional care and try not to be too much biased: my opinion is that not having LTE cannot be considered a feature; I still don't care, as I live outside the USA and LTE is absurdly expensive here, but LTE is still a technology that offers better speeds.

I understand the reasons for the choice, and I endorse them completely, but there's not pride in ignoring your own shortcomings, while pointing them out on others. Simply put, the Nexus 4 is an exceptional phone for HSPA+ networks, and considering the price, it is even more so. People complaining about missing LTE can just pick another phone that meets their specifications.

Photospheres, as well, are nothing revolutionary, they've been doing them for years on WPs and iPhones using photosynth. Nevertheless they are neat, and I enjoy a lot the fact that I can now use them, share them, contribute to street view, etc.


> no LTE

He was talking about the Galaxy Nexus, which does have LTE.

> battery life

That's a function of the functionality - I'd rather be able to synchronize my reading lists in the background and forgo a bit of the battery life. I rarely use more than half of my Galaxy Nexus's battery on a given day, so that's fine for me.

> screen quality

No idea where you're getting this from. Both screens are fine, but the Galaxy Nexus's screen size is the major difference.


Is T-Mobile going to have an LTE network in US?

> Everyone seems fine with LTE.

Do they have a choice otherwise though?


Everybody uses the same LTE in the United States.

The Anandtech article didn't test out 1800MHz, but I would guess that 1800MHz (band 3) would be the second most likely band to be supported on the Nexus 4. It is a band until now normally used for GSM.

The other bands he has tested for aren't really in use for LTE yet.


Glorious news this morning. Enabled it on my Nexus 4 with Telus and I can confirm that this works absolutely fine.

However, I'm quite curious about the battery life impact. So far the N4 isn't a champion in this category. Adding LTE..


This shouldn't be an issue with LTE, right?

I was a bit confused as to why this was remarkable. I found out that the Nexus 4 isn't billed as supporting LTE, so this unofficial support is essentially "for free".

No, but but they have massive plans to rollout LTE. LTE is a 4G technology with 4G being defined as IP address + data stream, no fancypants, no application (ala telephonery) has specific own physical/link layer.
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