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but perhaps there are reasons other than sexist bias for organization that favours one sex over another.


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I'm not sure what you mean by gender bias, but I am pretty sure, all things being equal, I'd likely let to a woman than a man, even if I were a different sex. All things being equal --income, social traits, etc.

I think guys in these cases would be at a disadvantage.


I wouldn't suspect feminists of wanting to get an advantage, but I suspect they might be reacting to sensationalist and distorted statistics at times. Just because there are different numbers of males and females in some positions does not imply that discrimination is the cause.

So it is indeed because of gender discrimination/diversity?

How is not suggesting stuff related to gender creating bias?

Actually, organizing markets in a way that they favour one gender over another is an instance of sexist bias.

I see plenty of examples where gender-blind treatment does not appear to be the goal of people.

Some of these are biased against women while others are biased in favor of them.


They don't allow men in because they're sexist

You probably really think that's a really compelling argument, don't you?


It's a bit unfortunate that the term for gender equality is so gender biased.

Sure, but everyone seems to be assuming that it's systematically unfavorable towards women solely based on the fact that women make up less than parity.

That claim only works if one assumes that any disparity is the result of systematic bias.


It's an error to assume any opinion is always right. Ultimately institutional sex discrimination is counter-productive to human life, so you will generally see a higher quality of life, lower violence, better health outcomes, reduced chemical toxicity, in places where both sexes have equal social mobility.

It can probably help reduce gender bias - sometimes people will judge the same actions differently based on the person's gender

"and realize that sex is probably not a significant contributor to outcome"

It is sort of a doubled edged sword, if race and gender have no significant effect on outcome, then in a way that could be used as a justification for blocking those people from said positions. On the other hand, if it's the opposite then is purely superficial.


On the same token, a specifically male only group tends to get crucified. It's more of a confusion of double standards, perceived or otherwise. Sure, most groups end up de-facto male only, but you never see groups actively advertised as male only.

Because evaluating differently based on gender actually is discriminatory.

No, sex discrimination is a bad thing.

That doesn't count as gender bias. Gender bias is when the system discriminates against women. When it does the same against men, it's equity.

If gender bias is the issue, focus on bias detect and mitigation; not masking gender, which to me sends the wrong message.

I think not many people would oppose that statement. Where opinions differ is whether one or the other sex is given an advantage in a particular subject/area of life.

Or maybe they're bringing it up because it would be gender discrimination and would be hypocritical?
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