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You used “Joe Sixpack”, the OP used “Joe Consumer” which sounds a lot less derogatory to me.


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"Trader Joe's" could also be being used as an adjective in this headline right?

Well, that's one way to deal with a guy who has spent the money proving the market for your product line. I think a better move would have been to take a page from Dave Thomas' (Wendy's) play book and open a Trader Joe's down the street.

Problem is it sounds like he was trying to rely on association to the Trader Joe's brand to make money, kind of a shadow franchise. That opens up the problem of brand dilution, and even the most ethical companies have to be ruthless about that, or they can lose their own brand and all the benefits they worked to build with it.

He should have realized the need, and done things like match their product mix with his own brands, work on making the store's own feel, and dampened direct association to Trader Joe's. He didn't and it bit him in the ass. No sympathy here.


> Additionally, Trader Joes ONLY sells white-labelled products, so it is even less applicable...

Their mix is heavily skewed toward private-label products, but "ONLY" is not accurate.

To pick one example: they sell name-brand beer alongside their private labels.


> So while it’s not branded, the reputation is overall positive.

I agree. Trader Joes has a lot of white label stuff, I'd say I usually have a higher impression of their white labeled products than branded products at the same price range.


I have gotten that impression from Trader Joe’s people as well.

I think this option makes the most sense, rather than treating "Trader Joe's" as one unit that has different rules than normal language

Confused by this comment. Trader Joe's is universally loved for its products, including groceries.

Trader Joe's (and maybe others) uses the word "beverage" to describe a lot of its milk alternatives.

It's often not fair. Trader Joe's has a reputation for bringing in new and popular name brand items. Once they determine market fit with their customers and build demand they clone the items and replace with their own brand.

Excellent points: thanks for the cool splash of water on the article's subjectivity. Trader Joe's marketing is what causes the author to say saying something like "the lines and packed lots themselves can be reassuring, that you have come to the right place."

But it's Trader Joe's business model that makes it come across as a "low-priced gourmet-cum-health-foods store" (original owner's words). It doesn't seem to me that social media has anything to do with it.

On a side note, does anyone actually think Trader Joe's "Frequent Flier" handout is useful? It looks to me like an amateur, Microsoft Publisher-designed handout. They could use some modernism in that department. Unless it's ironically bad as the point?


>> consumers might actually be confused by the name

Only problem is those consumers are in a different country - one where Trader Joe's does not operate. I would bet Pirate Joe's would have happily closed down if Trader Joe's opened up a store in Vancouver, since that's all the Pirate Joe guy wanted in the first place.


Fair enough. They also don't slap a Trader Joes marque on the produce they resell.

There's protecting your brand, and then there's whatever the heck it is Trader Joe's did here, which seems senseless and malevolent.

Really? Why? I really don't get the Trader Joe's love.

I didn't mean to imply that it was bad. There is a lot of fights around organics, and made in the US, and such. Walmart tends to optimize for price rather than low environmental impact, or made in the US. Trader Joes tends to optimize differently.

Trader Joe’s reversed their initial reaction to cancel their kitschy labels of trader Giottos and Joe-san, etc.[1]

“We do not make decisions based on petitions”

[1] https://www.boston.com/news/business/2020/07/31/trader-joes-...


That's not true. Trader Joe's has multiple choices in many categories: beer, rice, corn chips, chocolate bars, salad dressing, yogurt, salami, etc.

Same with Trader Joe's store brands, or at least that was the case in the past as I recall reading in The Fearless Flyer.
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