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In the sense that you don't think it was a valid conclusion, or in the sense that given that conclusion, it was a nonsense reason to fire her?

This aspect of the situation seems exceedingly clear to me.



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She resigned, she was not fired.

By all means argue that they made her feel that it was not possible or sensible to try to do the job she wanted to do. But she resigned, and that's not the same thing.


It's very difficult to deduce causality in that situation. She could have been fired due to not fitting in with the organization due to her valid concerns, or she could have brought up concerns due to bias from being fired. It is most likely somewhere in the middle, where her observations were somewhat truthful and somewhat biased.

Are you implying that if it were verified that she made that comment that you would change your mind about her firing?

Sounds like she was snide about it. However, that is a dumb reason to fire someone. I would not have wanted to work for that company.

Should she have been fired for her email to the group? It's hard to discuss if people don't agree she was fired.

Should we believe her or her managers? Her managers pretending they just accepted her resignation is dishonest.


Based on the timing it doesn't seem like your "Apparently (1) wasn’t sufficient to justify her actions, so she’s had to resort to (2)" conclusion makes sense. It wasn't like she gave out a lot of specifics, and when people thought that wasn't enough evidence that she then resorted to "vague and non-specific" claims. The timing was the opposite.

My guess (having seen other examples of this) is the board depended too much on the legal advice they got. That is, I'm sure their lawyers recommended giving as few details as possible, because every detail you give is a potential opening for a lawsuit. This is generally standard legal advice when firing someone. The problem with that advice is that while it may make sense from a purely legal perspective, it is absolutely horrible practical advice when it comes to communicating their rationale for a decision of this magnitude.


Agree. I'm sure she didn't want to be fired, but she wanted to stir things up...

Do you think she got fired for those reasons? Citing her as sounding self righteous or unprofessional seems weak.

Right. Let's just be honest: they came up with a plausibly-deniable excuse to fire her for doing exactly what she did.

I definitely don't see any justification for the actions she ultimately took in this situation.

I'm just saying that it appears there may have been multiple points of failure, in this fiasco.


Why do you think so fired her ? There has to be a reason. If you don’t like the official one propose one

If they decided the date of the "resignation" without informing her then they fired her. That is pretty obvious.

And it wasn't because of her demands concerning the paper, it was on account of the way they interpreted of an email she sent to her colleagues.


i guess they were right to fire her. its a really narcissistic piece. to think that such people actually exist in this world.

the interview went off the rails because she insisted their answers werent valid. She was told she was fired for performance reasons (whether true in reality or not is questionable). i dont know if arguing with the exit interviewers has any point to it, shouldnt she just see an employment lawyer instead?

To me it reads more like she didn't like the policy and went out to find a reason to justify removing the policy. Whether it made sense or not was irrelevant.

I consider that to be fluff and nonsense.

48 hours is not the right interval to be making that judgment. And firing her in response to correct the situation was about the worse and most extreme of actions.

(And please note, I think Richards made a mistake and showed terrible judgment.)


They didn't fire her. She said "I will quit if you don't meet these demands" and they were unwilling to meet the demands.

If she didn't threaten to quit, I can't imagine they would've done anything other than tell her no. But she gave them an ultimatum and they chose which side they would be on.


I agree with your sentiments, but she was not fired. She resigned. There is a big difference. Of course, I wasn't there so I don't know if it was a forced resignation (ie. firing) or not, but everything I look up says she resigned.

> most of her complaints were found to have no basis in fact

Enough of them had a basis in fact to get a founder fired.

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