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It's probably around $5m in the bank as that's around when you can draw a reasonable income from fairly safe investments without it decreasing.


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5 million. Invested at a modest, low-risk 2% (which you used to be able to get from a standard savings account), that gives you $100,000/year: quite a decent baseline.

More accurately, $5m invested properly (low-fee index funds, real estate etc) will yield approximately %2-3 annually after inflation (assuming "normal" inflation in the %3-5 range). That works out to around $100k annually, again inflation adjusted. Nothing's certain in life but $100k/year, inflation-adjusted should probably be enough for most people.

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Let do the math.

5k for 20 years with average 6% annual return on investments and 3% annual withdrawals (~$200 per year or less than $20 per month).

With 0% inflation over 20 years, this will yield you $9000 (in 2042 dollars).

The inflation this year is above 5%, and if this trend continues for long, your investment will pretty much evaporate slowly.


(I was assuming you could get a 7% annual return on the $5M, which is $350K, or about $1K/mo times 30.)

5% yoy risk-free is optimistic, realistically he can count on 50-60k. Close to fuck-you money but, for a lot of people, not there yet.

The median income is ~$30,000. That means you have ~$70,000 to invest each year. If we assume a 5% rate of return, you'll have ~$2MM after 20 years. At the same rate, that will continue to provide you $100,000 each year in retirement. Bad luck can happen, but generally speaking retirement should have been quite easy with that kind of income.

Last time I crunched the numbers, $1M will provide security but probably not indefinitely sustainable income. If you manage 6-7% in the stock market, that's $60-70k/year, but 6-7% is the decade-over-decade average. Any one given year can be 1% (or even negative).

$10M on the other hand provides solidly middle-class income even in years of terrible market performance.


Probably 7 million after taxes. The first million will buy you a decent house. The next million will let you buy other materialistic goods and/or give away. The next 5 million can go into a very safe savings account which will net you 6 figures a year in interest.

With 7 million, you should be set for life with a decent lifestyle.


$5,000,000 with a rather conservative investment strategy yielding 5%/year would give you 250k annually to play with without impacting the principal.

It wobbles around depending on my mood. At the most basic level, though, enough to pay off the mortgage, do a few fun things, and create a fund to draw down at 3.5% per year covering two good incomes – so somewhere in the $6-8m zone. If I were sick or had to stop working for some critical reason though, obviously that would drop pretty quick given lack of options.

If you put $5M in index funds, you’d grow it by about $400k a year (8%) on average, to start. It’s hard to imagine going broke with that by doing “normal middle class” things. For added security, one could add in a part-time job.

~20M dollar exit; in the US, trusts have to pay out 5% per year; he has a ~1M income provided the trust invests well.

Plus the 1000 if invested would probably be say 1150 after five years.

Good point. If you valued a residual income stream of $5,000 at 10% per year, that would be the equivalent of having $600,000 in the bank at the same rate of return. That buys nice lifestyle in most places in the world.

$1,500 invested yearly, at 7% interest, generates ~60k in 20 years. So even at your inflated income estimates, this is definitely worth thinking about.

$5M doesn't go that far anymore. If you're young and you have $5M, you could take 4-5% per year and make it last 40-50 years.

That's only $250,000 per year, pre tax. Good money, but certainly not enough to not have to think about money anymore.


3 million.

The safe withdrawal rate is between 2-3%, tbh. You've got to eat inflation, down turns, etc.

I could live off of 60-90k/year [depending on the market], and not worry too much.

However, if you throw in a wife [that brings you to 6 million] and the expectation of kids...its probably like 7-8 million.


If you have $5 million reasonably invested, you could pay yourself approximately $200k per year until you die (the average long-term expected return from the stock market is > 4% above inflation) and likely leave some cash to your kids.

$500K right now would pay off my home and do a good job of setting me up for retirement in the future.

$5M when you already have $45M doesn't move the needle much.

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