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I've always wondered how this worked at Google. What protocol are they using?

Wow, had no idea. How did Google score that protocol?

That's one of the things that Google has proposed as part of their SPDY protocol.

As the top-level poster to this chain said,

> it is interesting how a company was able to quietly move a large user base from open protocols to a proprietary protocol.

Some of us may believe Google is doing so for good reasons, some of us might not be sure - but that is all beside the point.

The point is that this is a massive show of power. And it has been applied quietly - no one (outside of Google) knew about this massive change in activity until this blogpost.

In any hands, that amount of power should be worrying.


If those companies can't achieve basic protocol detection, I'm all for someone shoving it down their throats. Why not Google?

Note the Google implementation is full of code from Cisco. FWIW.

But how does Google getting in signal that?

Because Google isn't using standard protocol handlers?

How about if a friend sends you an address in imessage and you click it?


That doesn't really answer my question though. The problem is that Google is handing over data, not what method is being used to try and access that data.

It's because a Google employee implemented protocol v2, and wrote a post about it.

I invented the design for this protocol, Google stole it from me, and I have the digitally signed emails with Google to prove it. Not that anyone cares now.

I am confused with your fear. Google is just utilizing XMPP, they are not creating anything new, its open sourced. Plus the group that developed XMPP were formalized by the IETF.

What exactly did Google expect to happen when they created the service and published the protocols?

Quite. For whatever reason I was under the impression that the demanded information was on Google servers.

Almost as if there's no standard, and everything's really just running on a proprietary Google protocol...

They did not dictate anything, but proposed a protocol. It was adapted and changed.

Also, this is not part of a big, evil Google master plan. The engineers who developed it are well known and they presumably tried to do their best from a technical point of view.


Is Google going pull a Google with this and keep a copy of every you packet transmit and receive, holding onto it for ever and ever?

> unencrypted cloud connection / data storage

[citation needed] because basically every Google (and Nest) product have used pretty decent protocols since Snowden leaks.


I'm not acting as if it is Google's responsibility to support any protocols at all. It's just curious that Google would implement a protocol on their servers but not on their operating system. Am I demanding anything? No. I am blaming anyone? Not at all.

The personal attacks based on your perception of my comment are frankly unprofessional and completely unnecessary.

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