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You've never been to a coal power plant have you?

Go to one and watch the endless trains of coal arriving constantly to power the thing, then come back and rethink what you just posted.



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Coal is terrible in terms of load following. What are you even talking about? If anything, coal plants are economically unsustainable. They don't respond to short term changes in electricity prices and therefore still produce electricity even when they are losing money.

You're confusing coal plants as flywheels and coal plants generating power -- two different things, two different timescales.

You can literally operate the coal power plant until it falls apart and burns down and nobody gives a damn. Try doing that with a nuclear power plant.

Long ago I worked at a massive plant that had its own power station (electricity and steam), fired by coal.

It had its own rail line to bring in coal. When you drove in you’d drive by a pile of coal about 50 ft high.

We got a tour of the power plant and it had recently been upgraded in terms of efficiency and emissions.

Pretty sure it’s been shutdown now.


You didn't get what i mean. Rephrased: Use every available energy to shut off coal plants instead of using that energy to supply an additional facility like this.

Coal power plants

How about coal power plants?

Coal-fired power plants?

You realize that coal plants produce CO2, right?

Also, why are these coal powered plants? That is a worst case scenario and not representative of the actual power grids in most locations. Seems design to scare rather than inform.

You are arguing against coal power plants. No one is disagreeing with you there.

You actually think this is as ugly as a coal power plant? I just don't know what to say.

http://apsolarracking.com/images/ground-large_13.jpg


Coal to be warm is simple.

Coal to run a power plant, via turbines, is significantly more complicated than solar panels.


Coal plants are not designed to be constantly started and stopped. For one, constantly cooling and reheating the equipment would damage the metal.

From https://endcoal.org/global-coal-plant-tracker/ all announced or in-construction coal power plants.

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What does that have to do with anything? "Coal plant" is being used as a unit of power here.

Almost all power is generated by heating water into steam, which can still be done by burning almost anything. It won't be very efficient, but you can do it - so traveling to the nearest coal mine/plant may be an effective energy source.

You have completely missed the point. Sorry. I am talking about fact, that coal plant is running 24/7 because it can't be easily switched on/off, which is important for countries like Germany which are using fossil plants as a backup for intermittent renewables. Try to read whole thread.

The entire world could easily be on 100% renewable by 2060.

The average lifetime of a coal fired power plant is 40 years so if we don't build another one the last one built will expire around then. In the meantime every time new capacity is needed or an existing coal power plant needs to be decommissioned replace it with solar/wind/solar thermal/nuclear/pumped hyrdo/geothermal/a battery system/wave generator/whatever.

Today, with all subsidies removed, and all externalities included, coal is already not an economically competitive source of electricity, governments need to stop propping it up and just let it die.

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