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The problem is that people want 0% risk and have someone else pay the infinite price tag.


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I don’t see how this is the case. What is being put at risk if not the price tag/lack thereof?

It's not zero risk, the risk is lower revenue with this offer vs the more competitive alternative

There is something called the risk-free rate. It used to be 0, but not any more.

It's not logical. You can sell the 0-5m random option for more than 1m (more than 2m!). Or you can buy some sort of insurance where someone pays you if you get a low roll, but you pay them if you get a high roll.

Taking 40% as much money (on average) is some really expensive risk mitigation. There are much, much better deals available.

For the larger amounts of money, the risk mitigation comes at a much higher price and is even more silly.


The risk is 0.001%, and it brings in 30% (or whatever) more business. This has nothing to do with trust, it's a simple equation.

Well nothing is truly 0 risk given the nature of opportunity cost, inflation, etc.

In a perfect information world, there is no shared pooling of risk. You are paying exactly what you will cost, plus margin. That is the point im trying to make.

Anyone paying 7% is doing so to compensate for risk.

I agree. Its a risk of opportunity cost

Why? What's the point of this worthless risk?

Many people see it as a big risk (such as investors and customers) which makes it self-fulfilling.

Most people have some risk aversion. For example, few people would trade $10 million for a 10% chance at $100 million.

It's very clear why they are not doing it. Putting the risk on you instead of themselves a) is better for them for obvious reasons, and b) makes it less likely for something bad to happen in the first place.

Also, I can imagine clients worried about this are not the money-making kind of clients anyway.


It's not a risk free proposition, it's probably a losing proposition in the long term.

Every time it dips under $0.99, there's a chance it goes straight to $0 and cannot be cashed out anywhere.


The website does not imply "little to no risk." It explicitly states that it's a Ponzi scheme, which clearly means that you're gambling on not being the last one the party.

I think another way to put it is you need to pay them for the risk they are taking. That's why you can't do a one-to-one swap. If they get the same total amount of money that they would in a more stable position, they have no reason to take the risk.

Exactly. I mean, I assume people operated under the assumption that the risk was non-transferrable, so I can see the logic in taking $1M over 0-5. You're giving up some expected value in order to reduce risk. Especially when you take into account the diminishing marginal value of money, especially around the low to mid millions, it makes some sense.

What doesn't, as you say, is considering a random amount between zero and 100 billion dollars in any way risky compared to $1M. You're probably more likely to take the $1M then to be struck by lighting than you are to take the random option and end up with less. (And even THEN, ending up with $900k isn't the end of the world, so the odds are even lower of a really unfortunate outcome.) So you're giving up an absolutely massive expected value in order to avoid a truly miniscule risk. This is risk-aversion at its most ridiculous IMO.


The problem is that without making a profit, you have no buffer to handle unforseen risk.

There is zero risk and they get money.
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