That's not exactly my position. I don't think authoritarian schools as we know them today should exist. I'd like to see lower cost, higher quality, and much more variety, innovation, and experimentation in education. Government involvement hinders all of those things.
Bit of a weird position to take that you're in favour of schools doing indoctrination, just as long as it's away from the viewpoint you don't like. That's pretty authoritarian; seems to be on the rise these days.
I'd look into democratic schooling or private schools with alternative pedagogy. My criticism is not of all forms of school and learning, just the conservative, orthodox pedagogy found in public schools and most private schools
I'm not against public schooling in principle but its current form is baffling. We expect kids to spend 1/4 of their entire life in an authoritarian system where they have no autonomy and then we throw them to the wolves when they become adults.
But school is about creating obedient subjects so that the government can maintain status quo. I don't see them promoting anything that is radically different which has the potential to undermine the thought processes that support out institutions.
No, I'm arguing that forced schooling in general is an unethical act, on par with communist indoctrination, and there should be no government run schools at all
I see this talk as an argument against "traditional" schooling. The alternative to traditional schooling is anything not traditional. In the US, that would be homeschooling or private school like Montessori. The political takeaway is that government schooling (which necessarily places emphasis on uniformity and conformity) is harmful and that private alternatives should be encouraged.
I am always in support of less government - why in the world should a government be in control of the education of children? Society doesn't progress by circumscribing all of it's member entities, it progresses when those boundaries are pushed by people that do things different.
I was home schooled most of my life, and I'm self educated; school was a failure for me because there was too much "authority" instead of "discovery" while learning.
There is a place in society for schools that will treat you like cattle and babysit you all day. There is also a place for academically challenging schools that provide a strong education. I don’t want to ban the latter in order to improve the former.
So if you believe this, then why do you advocate for policies that will further regiment and ossify the school system we have? Shouldn't you want to give teachers more freedom with their curricula?
I wouldn't say I'm advocating for private school,or even lack of govt in school matters.
I guess my primary point surrounds censorship, especially when it comes to dictating what teachers can say or teach (in addition to, in the context of, not necessarily in place of the cariculum)
I agree all choices have drawbacks. I'm merely pointing out that using parents to judge the quality of educators due to the political leanings of educators implies parents themselves aren't politically led. I don't know if an apolitical education is possible- how does one teach history or social studies?
politics is a component too... i wouldn't go looking for purely intelligent decision making from a government selected by popularity contest.
the perception that school is getting easier, a criticism of the government that is politically undesirable, can be addressed by a 'return to traditional methods' in superficial ways... even if there is not really a concrete problem to address.
politics isn't about doing or achieving anything in terms of education or quality of life for others - its about making other people happy.
Every nation has a different education system and in many nations each region has its own education system. I don't know in what kind of a horror school you went to, but the schools I'm involved with my kids and the schools I went to teach anything but "nationalistic, xenophobic, white-supremacists, elitist, classist etc. propaganda". Quite the contrary indeed - public schools are a very important tool for integration of people from different background and cultures - it will give them a shared experience where they can learn to understand each other. By themselves, people tend to auto-segregate[0].
> Fuck authoritarianism, especially when education is mandatory.
I don't exactly know what you consider "authoritarianism". But rules in schools by themselves certainly aren't an example of authoritarianism[1].
Re; "patriarchal propaganda"; seems like you yourself got quite the bit of anti-socialist propaganda.
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