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Such an online marketplace should have an escrow included then if they wish to use Bitcoin as a payment method.

I believe the Silk Road(s) have used such systems.



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That's not really a problem specific to Bitcoin only. I've seen Bitcoin Escrow services but I'm not sure which ones are trust worthy.

There are a number of escrow services available for Bitcoin transactions. https://clearcoin.appspot.com/ for example.

This may work for smaller shops, but it's easy to catch larger companies doing this. Public ledger and this transaction involves knowing the buyers address. Plus if a large enough website allowed you to pay with Bitcoin they could easily get shut down. The start-up cost for a store are way higher then hosting a hard drive full of copy-righted files, so they couldn't be as elusive.

Are there any SR-like marketplaces that don't use Bitcoin? If not, why not?

Blockchain isn't necessary for that. All you need are some shitty PHP pages behind a Tor hidden service and an escrow agent to facilitate transactions. The currency doesn't matter and it certainly doesn't have to be Bitcoin-- prepaid Visa cards work just as well, and are more anonymous than Bitcoin anyway.

I haven't come across any, but I'm not surprised since it makes them rife for abuse. There are providers that accept payment in bitcoin however, mostly seedbox providers. RapidSeedbox comes to mind.

Actually, there may be a technical approach: do something like padmapper as a TOR service, and take payment in bitcoins. :-)

I was referring more to the operators of the site. LE probably isn't going to go after individual buyers all that often. But the site will have a record of Bitcoin payments made, so you can link up sellers and buyers. And most people probably don't have untraceable Bitcoin. (I tried to buy $300 of BTC anonymously, and it took hours of work, and still reveals which post office I used.)

Yes, perfect use case for Bitcoin! Many VPN providers (and big ones, not small alternative ones) already accept Bitcoin for this very reason:

https://www.expressvpn.com/blog/expressvpn-now-accepts-bitco...

https://www.astrill.com/pricing.php

https://doublehop.me/

Etc.


Thank you for the links. The first step is to find a client who would pay via Bitcoin, but I figure if businesses can accept Bitcoin then so can I.

I will definitely update you if I go through with it.


You don't need bitcoin to operate an escrow service.

Then, maybe, use Bitcoins for payment and Tor+HTTPS while signing up for the hosting provider?

Is it possible to use Bitcoin or a bitcoin-like system to create listings in a decentralized manner? Maybe with Namecoin?

I worry that these types of sites centralize the marketplace in one easy-to-attack location.


This is a fair argument. You would use a bitcoin service like bitrated.com in this case that also carries some cost.

Decentralised marketplace, maybe? Open-source, trustless. So people can't scam you. Not saying that blockchain is a good way to do this: For instance, privacy would be a major red-flag, as well as the question of who's going to do the mining.

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Just found this: https://openbazaar.org/ Doesn't appear to use its own blockchain. Does use cryptocurrency though, for largely privacy and anti-censorship reasons. Uses multisig capabilities in Bitcoin to enable escrow/chargeback.

As to why you wouldn't do the same thing for bananas: Weed is illegal, so any business selling weed is in danger of being shut down. Something decentralised is more immune to getting shutdown. Compare Napster (centralised) to BitTorrent (decentralised).


I like the idea, kind of a PayPal for Bitcoin. My issues would be the usual: I don't trust a new service with my bitcoins, don't know anything about their policy for data loss, etc. The about page and support pages don't really instill any confidence. If I knew I could trust them it would seem like a great service.

You’d just need an extended public key that gives unique addresses to buyers and a price API to provide rate conversions. Your private key can be offline or on a hard wallet. Also see btcpayserver for an open source bitpay clone that does what you are thinking and more

The problem with the Bitcoin approach is not so much the money, but the time and knowledge needed to set up a wallet, buy BTCs and then perform the payment. And as long as it costs money it would still hopefully stop trolls.

The only provider I know is Fortumo[1], but I'm sure there are others. It seems pretty easy to integrate with a website[2] and as far as I know there is no way for the client to issue a chargeback.

[1]: http://fortumo.com/ [2]: http://fortumo.com/api


Well you have to trust someone. We have an escrow service thats trusted by most bitcoin users. ClearCoin.

It's made and run by one of the main bitcoin developers.

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