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I'm curious why they labeled it "METACONTENT: Message Content". So it's content about the content's content?


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interesting definition of metacontent


It's the metadata. Not the message contents.

>... such as email subject lines and other metadata ...

How could subject lines possibly be considered metadata? It is quite clearly content.


You can think of it that way. But then you must admit that metadata is content also. Of metametadata.

We're talking about metadata here (who talks to whom), not the content of messages.

It's analogous to phone call metadata vs. the contents of the phone calls.

Isn't metadata, practically speaking, a subset of content?

Importantly to how we think about communication, no.

Metadata is the signature that accompanies or encapsulates content, viewable to the world. You can completely conceal content, through encryption for example, but you can't completely conceal metadata.

In other words there must be a physical exchange of energy somewhere (communication), and metadata tells you something about how the exchange happened, irrespective and ignorant of what the content is.


Isn't it just an identifier that then points to all the meta-data?

Metadata defines what is the content, the sections and the titles. A blob of text is worthless without context.

Metadata is always created. This is often more valuable to the monitors than actual content in messages.

But the situation being compared is 'metadata' vs 'metadata + content'

From the article, "(Metadata describes basic information on who has been contacting whom, without detailing the content.)".

Could someone let the journalists know what metadata really is? I mean, come on. Metadata is a concise, highly valued description of the data, also including identifying information. In other words, keywords!

For this comment, the keywords (metadata) might be:

Journalists Metadata Meta Data Article


I'm particularly interested in what "metadata" is in this instance? Is it arbitrary?

In this case, the metadata (who is talking to who, and when) may be more valuable than the messages' contents.

Content modification vs. metadata modification I believe.

I've always understood timing, origin, and destination of a message to be metadata. I'm on the fence about the size of the message. Only the contents themselves are definitely data.

Of course, metadata sometimes contains even more information than the data itself, so framing it as "unimportant" is already incredibly dishonest.


What kind of 'metadata' are they referring to here? Can you give some concrete examples?

I'm not sure what you mean by conversations, if you mean the content of messages then no that is not metadata, if you mean who talked to whom, then yes that is metadata.

I reject calling it metadata. It's actual data.
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