I have plenty of time in the morning to make a lunch to take to work. I don't want to. Your "holier than thou" comments are not helping anyone. So you're not interested in Soylent... why be a jerk about it to people who are? I hate tofu... should I trash talk all the people that put that disgusting, vile creation into their mouth?
Who said anything about that? Of course I have things to do, but grabbing a sandwich from the deli on my block is almost as fast as soylent and much more enjoyable.
Although from this thread I'm starting to think the real reason many people dislike Soylent is the holier-than-thou attitude many of it's supporters seem to sport :)
If I thought for a second that you actually wanted a legitimate answer, then I would give you mine. But when you say things like "literally don't have 1 minute to spare" I know you just want to put people down. You don't want to know because you have already judged everyone and it shows in all of your comments. I'm not going to waste any more time thinking I can convince you of anything when you so clearly have already decided. Which is fine. You don't have to like the idea of Soylent. But you also don't have to shit on like that.
Its a more fundamental misunderstanding. You don't have time to eat, that is why you use this product. A lot of the other commenters cannot conceive of that world view as a regular state. Along with myself, if I don't have time to eat something that is fine. If this happens more than once a week/month, I am going to change my life as obviously something is very wrong with the way I am living it. To me, food is part of the reason for living. It's social, tasty, visceral, primal, fun, enjoyable, etc. It makes me who I am and is a part of my identity. For you, that is not necessarily true, as far as I can read about you in a single comment. Like, if I am dashing out the door and don't have time to cook a breakfast, then fine, Soylent is ok. If I have done this more than once in my week, I am going to wake up much earlier and go to bed earlier too in order to make that breakfast and prep my lunches that are tasty and good for me. If I have to work late, fine, Soylent. If that happens a lot in my life, I am going to start quickly looking for another job that lets me see my wife and kids and eat dinners with them and have fun making the food too and doing the dishes. A habit of missing meals is not on the table for me. I will never order a box of soylent, as I will never need it. If I ever go through that much, something is very very wrong with my life and needs immediate change. I know this is not true of you and many of Soylent's customers, and I don't mean to disparage you. I just want to explain the misunderstanding. They obviously have a customer base, yourself included, but for many of us, using Soylent habitually is impossible to understand.
Here is what all the off topic discussion will be:
Person1) "What is so hard to understand sheeple?! Soylent isn't for all your meals, just ones that you are too busy to eat. Also, it has all the vitamins you need not like all those thousand other bars/drinks!?"
Person2) "I'd rather move to the bottom of the ocean than buy Soylent. Why would you ever skip a meal?! Capitalism is the root of all evil including making me miss my dinner!"
Folks, we all come at food differently, it's a very personal thing. Just because you feel this way about food, does not mean we all do. It's like people that stand or sit when they are wiping after going #2. We all coexist just fine and none of us know that there is really any other way and are astounded when other people are different.
Are you a soylent stakeholder? It's puzzling why you would invalidate someone's experience with such a condescending tone.
Soylent is just another hyped up SV junk. The rest of the world does not give a shit about having to cook because they don't have much to eat.
I personally wouldn't touch Soylent and leave it up to some 30 year old engineers with no understanding of the food industry.
The CEO is super fucking annoying always pushing that shitjuice and looking at ppl confused "why are you still eating lol thats a waste of time". This is exactly what an engineer on the autism spectrum will tell you.
> I guess if you're a meta-human weirdo who claims to have no inherent desire to consume tasty food and just wants to "get it out of the way", Soylent is for you. I don't believe you actually exist, though.
Here I am, right here! 28-year-old woman, just to give some demographic information. I don't like cooking, I don't want to deal with produce that goes bad before I get around to preparing it. Soylent is a lovely time-saver for me.
What is with the vehement anti-Soylent crowd who just can't believe some of us have more enjoyable ways to spend our time than cooking, planning meals, preparing ingredients, and grocery shopping?
As I type this I am eating, for breakfast, a sausage biscuit. I am unlikely to switch to Soylent. Now that you know my opinion, should I pretend to believe I have made you smarter? Maybe we can pretend to have made each other smarter together by expressing the same opinion.
Who gives a fuck if I am in the target market segment? The important lessons of Soylent are applicable beyond the specifics. They scratched their own itch, they're shipping, they're gaining the traction needed to build a clear brand, and above all the founders were not so in love with the contents of their own heads that they failed to recognize failure nor seize opportunity.
Sure it's not a product that contains interesting ideas expressed as computer code. Ain't the point. What matters is not the operands but the implementation of the operands.
Good luck to the Soylent team. Maybe you will convince me to be a customer, but no hard feelings if you forego wooing me.
Sorry. Usually legitimate questions don't involve reducing people interested in Soylent to various negative buckets like: Lazy, no foresight, poor time management skills. I mistook your comments for condescending snark. Still not sure I am wrong but since I'm not a mind reader I'm not going to argue about what you were thinking. I can just go off of what I read.
Soylent exists because people don't want to cook. Don't want the time sliced out of their day. Don't care about variety and flavour. Would be happy to ignore food as an issue.
Telling them to cook really just amounts to ignoring their priorities.
I promise that my intention isn't to shit on anything. It just seems to me that most people are trying Soylent either because it saves time or because it's easier than cooking proper food. And those two reasons, to me, don't sound like a good reason to try a nutritional supplement.
…you'd rather eat random shit out of the ground that has been found to not kill you, than to eat something based on studying humans and their nutritional needs?
I mean, I can't say I like soylent much but you're just stupid if that's the argument against it.
See, I promised myself I would leave this thread before people started toting out the arguments isomorphic to "you only eat Soylent 100% of the time! You monster!"
You announced this at the outset, and remarkably have left a number of comments now. Yet you were the one who keeps bringing up this strawman, and exactly the same circle of argument happens every single time. You, as is the rote cycle, are trying to argue both sides at the same time.
That's not _the_ problem, it just means Soylent isn't for you. Which is cool. I love Soylent 2.0. I'm very happy that I can get a decent chunk of my calories from a vegan source with little effort and lots of convenience.
Maybe it's the way Soylent markets itself, but I don't understand why people are so _personally_ offended by it. Just... don't eat it.
I apologise if I've been too harsh on Soylent. I have, previously, been strongly against Soylent. I'm against some of the techniques they're using to sell it now.
But I'm trying to be more a "critical friend" rather than just "negative". I realise that I don't yet have the right balance.
Your synical tone, mocking comments, and blatant insults -
Examples of this would be nice. If you want everyone to pat you on the head and tell you how special you are you should stay in grade school. IMO, the Soylent product is a nonsensical endeavor with little chance of real success. I see no reason to pretend that I feel something different about it. Personally, I'm curious as to why you take such offence.
Re: growing difficulties: I explained that lack of food is not an issue in my dead-ened comment. There is more than enough food being produced right now for every living person on the planet. The global food crisis is not helped by another form of food, because that was never the issue.
There is no race to win - find a competetive career and get back to me on this one.
At some point in life, you'll understand that this is a crazy (and frankly unhealthy and unsustainable) way to live.
Writing off 40% of the population
Well, good thing that isn't what I said at all, is it?
Soylent isn't going to do well because we already have 40% of the population in the US that overindulge their love of food. These people aren't going to stop eating burgers so that they can have a protein shake instead.
Ergo, bad business idea. I'm pretty confident in my anti-Soylent stance, given the two major reason I stated above. I see no product and/or company in 5 years here.
Why don't you let people make their own decisions about what is good for them? It's none of your business "knowing better" than people.
And if you think Soylent's raison d'etre is "disrupt" then you're really stupid. Read Rob's blog. He writes a lot about the problems in contemporary food production and how he wants to tackle them with Soylent. If you ignore that in favour of portraying him as a blind hipster then you are not just stupid, but willfully so.
Let's not forget either that Rob and many others have been living healthily off of Soylent for years now.
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