Look at the hinge picture. See how the two hinge pins are parallel? Now imagine the blades turning 180 degrees. The hinge pins will now be at the "opposite" angle to before, despite that the blades are symmetrical so identical at 180 degrees to 0 degrees.
So at 0 degrees, increasing torque will, say, increase pitch of the "right-hand" blade while decreasing pitch of the "left-hand" one. But at 180 degrees it will be the opposite. This has the presumably beneficial effect of allowing the craft to climb by simply increasing rotor speed steadily (it will "wobble" a bit but in a spiral fashion which will let it climb without too much inefficiency). Put another way, this means that increasing torque at 0 degrees but decreasing it at 180 degrees allows an asymmetrical pitch to be maintained at a rotational speed which can be seen as constant (over the long term).
In other words, your intuition falls down because the mechanism is not as symmetrical as your brain wants it to be at first glance. Symmetry is an intuitive and attractive for mechanical systems, but it is actually limiting in many cases, and this is a great example.
I was thinking the same thing, and it’s certainly true functionally, but the mode of operation is quite different. It’s not about combining force vectors from different wheels, instead each blade rotates to always be thrusting in the desired direction.
You’ll notice it’s not entirely symmetric, because the torque of a rotary engine makes it much easier to turn and spin with the propeller, not against it.
You can also tune “allowed” moves to match the capability of a particular aircraft (and that’s why there is a whole series of these books that you can use interchangeably in any Allied-German pair: ...but some planes don’t have access to all the manoeuvres).
I played this and remember the Allies Sopwith Camel had the right-hand J turn the other planes didn't because of the rotary torque.
Also consider a more typical control scheme: up arrow is equal thrust, left arrow is a counterclockwise rotation (but at a much lower rotational acceleration rate than currently), right arrow is clockwise
"a rotor spinning one Way/DesxtroGiro, and the inside rotor flow Goes VS in the other at front against contrary/LevoGiro"
But the Blades (with the Gear) move in favor at that circumstances. Thats why is possible. The Interaction of two forces to make One.
That Particular Mechanics Technique Goes increasing Two forces in One: Force1/Rotor-DextroGiro VS Force2/inFlow-LevoGiro. front to Front.
*
·RETRODYNAMIC Effect / Some Points of View:
I always explain it well, but another thing is that you don't understand it.
As if it were an everyday question.
And they don't take it as a disruption, which changes schemes.
Because they really wouldn't even know about it. Being a subject that nobody has ever really dealt with.
*
And also to you can see it as an encrypted information.
And I know the best translator, for sure.
And they don't take it as a disruption, which changes schemes.
Because they really wouldn't even know about it. Being a subject that nobody has ever really dealt with.
But the concept it's a simple sum, then keep going to increase the phenomenal interaction.
Let me make a simple caparison: One Turn is One step, OK, Well in this particular case.
When you do One Turn is One Step, And Then is another turn are gone to be Two Steps.
And in the next turn are gone to be Four steps, And the next Turn are gone to be 8 Steps. Etc...
Really too to be able to explain it, needs to invent a new Mathematical Signal. Brand New.
I Tell You. It’s Like That.
*
I'm going to explain them perfectly well. We are going to make a comparison that each turn of the Rotor (applied in my case/Gearturbine) is a Step. It's fine. And So now when the rotor rotates with the power of the mechanical drive (Action). And furthermore, it has the internal flow contrary to its rotation (Reaction), but in favor of the individual blade attached to the gear with planetary rotation that activates the Rotor. In such a case they are two forces in a single system.
*
Maybe it doesn't have the best translation, but that's something else, that's not the point. But that would in no way be something that could belittle his qualities and technical virtues. And at the end of the day, all the explanations you can have are in the operation of the system. And this could not be easier to appreciate, Summed up in a simple sum. And in this case of 2Two Forces: 1Action + 2Reaction Applied in a single cycle, and thus also a single system.
Note: ·I use the "VS" Because the dynamic interaction is front to front, that's why.
·And is Added force one to the other, that's why I use the Sume/Plus mathematical symbol.
·A, B, and C are the same situation with a different word, from a different, technical view.
Other Note: If somebody doesn't understand Cut be because of some reason. Not because my responsibility.
I'm going to explain them perfectly well. We are going to make a comparison that each turn of the Rotor (applied in my case/Gearturbine) is a Step. It's fine. And So now when the rotor rotates with the power of the mechanical drive (Action). And furthermore, it has the internal flow contrary to its rotation (Reaction), but in favor of the individual blade attached to the gear with planetary rotation that activates the Rotor. In such a case they are two forces in a single system.
*
Maybe it doesn't have the best translation, but that's something else, that's not the point. But that would in no way be something that could belittle his qualities and technical virtues. And at the end of the day, all the explanations you can have are in the operation of the system. And this could not be easier to appreciate, Summed up in a simple sum. And in this case of 2Two Forces: 1Action + 2Reaction Applied in a single cycle, and thus also a single system.
Note: ·I use the "VS" Because the dynamic interaction is front to front, that's why.
·And is Added force one to the other, that's why I use the Sume/Plus mathematical symbol.
·A, B, and C are the same situation with a different word, from a different, technical view.
Other Note: If somebody doesn't understand Cut be because of some reason. Not because my responsibility.
*
I deal with the Requirements of a new mathematical symbol, in order to explain the Retrodynamic Phenomenon Effect, that occurs in an invention that I am developing. It is called the "Retrodynamic Effect" and it is created by having a situation of an axis turning in the opposite direction in a rotating system and in this way a great force is created. And there is currently no mathematical symbol that can explain it.
*
The Mathematical/Physical Symbol. What is required for the Explanation and Application in the Formula of the Retrodynamic Effect. Which has the quality of being applied in the Gear Turbine Project. What would it be to join the Symbols of ·1- (+) Addition and ·2- (X) Multiplication. It would be a Symbol with 8 Eight Points: 4 four of the symbol of + addition and four of the symbol of X multiplication. This is because it is a sum that continues to repeat the 2 Two forces the Action/RightRotation and the Reaction/Levorotation. The 2 Two Forces uniting, increasing each other into one. And is called “MULTIPLUS”. And in this way increasing its Power considerably. a sum that is multiplied and/or a multiplication that is added. When Active of the Rotor/action of the system and the internal flow/reaction that does it in the opposite way (in favor at the Blades circular move. Thats Why) applying in the individual vane connected next to its partner Gear internally fit in a planetary way internally in the casing, in this way. This is because that is how it works, they are the union and interaction of two forces face to face, front to front and therefore two symbols. DextroGiro and/or LevoGiro. Action And/or Reaction. + and/or X.
I'm going to explain them perfectly well. We are going to make a comparison that each turn of the Rotor (applied in my case/Gearturbine) is a Step. It's fine. And So now when the rotor rotates with the power of the mechanical drive (Action). And furthermore, it has the internal flow contrary to its rotation (Reaction), but in favor of the individual blade attached to the gear with planetary rotation that activates the Rotor. In such a case they are two forces in a single system.
*
Maybe it doesn't have the best translation, but that's something else, that's not the point. But that would in no way be something that could belittle his qualities and technical virtues. And at the end of the day, all the explanations you can have are in the operation of the system. And this could not be easier to appreciate, Summed up in a simple sum. And in this case of 2Two Forces: 1Action + 2Reaction Applied in a single cycle, and thus also a single system.
Note: ·I use the "VS" Because the dynamic interaction is front to front, that's why.
·And is Added force one to the other, that's why I use the Sume/Plus mathematical symbol.
·A, B, and C are the same situation with a different word, from a different, technical view.
Other Note: If somebody doesn't understand Cut be because of some reason. Not because my responsibility.
*
I deal with the Requirements of a new mathematical symbol, in order to explain the Retrodynamic Phenomenon Effect, that occurs in an invention that I am developing. It is called the "Retrodynamic Effect" and it is created by having a situation of an axis turning in the opposite direction in a rotating system and in this way a great force is created. And there is currently no mathematical symbol that can explain it.
*
The Mathematical/Physical Symbol. What is required for the Explanation and Application in the Formula of the Retrodynamic Effect. Which has the quality of being applied in the Gear Turbine Project. What would it be to join the Symbols of ·1- (+) Addition and ·2- (X) Multiplication. It would be a Symbol with 8 Eight Points: 4 four of the symbol of + addition and four of the symbol of X multiplication. This is because it is a sum that continues to repeat the 2 Two forces the Action/RightRotation and the Reaction/Levorotation. The 2 Two Forces uniting, increasing each other into one. And is called “MULTIPLUS”. And in this way increasing its Power considerably. a sum that is multiplied and/or a multiplication that is added. When Active of the Rotor/action of the system and the internal flow/reaction that does it in the opposite way (in favor at the Blades circular move. Thats Why) applying in the individual vane connected next to its partner Gear internally fit in a planetary way internally in the casing, in this way. This is because that is how it works, they are the union and interaction of two forces face to face, front to front and therefore two symbols. DextroGiro and/or LevoGiro. Action And/or Reaction. + and/or X.
*
It is not a single Force/Action to consider. But rather there are 2 Forces/Action and Reaction. And the interaction of one with/against another. With Opposite Directions, face to face/front to front. One against the other. And this interaction continues to increase progressively. One to other/Action to Reaction.
*
More than the question is the answer. Being that traditionally in a conventional system a single total power is considered. In this particular case there are two; action and reaction. And their interaction continues and continues to increase with each other. In such a way it would be that turning the force increases from 1 to 2, from 2 to 4, from 4 to 8, from 8 to 16, from 16 to 32, etc...
Big rotor = big moment of inertia = more energy lost on accelerating it and slowing it down each time. At some point it's better to rotate it at constant velocity and change pitch independently.
I'm confused... you are right that it takes no additional torque to keep a frictionless rotor rotating at the same angular velocity, but in the real world there is friction and air resistance where you have to keep applying torque to keep something spinning at the same rate. and if you are applying torque to someone, then that thing is applying an equal and opposite torque back... is it not?
Not a mechanical engineer but I think this is what is happening.
Note that Shaft F and shaft D are made to rotate in opposite directions.
Then another gear is made to pit those motions against each other, by means of that wacky rotating frame A.
To see why let’s unwrap it from a polar coordinate to something more linear.
Imagine a wheel with gears resting on a rail with teeth. The wheel has an axle going through it. If you drag the wheel’s axle forward horizontally that’s like what Frame A does to impart 1x rotation. But then the rail is also moving backwards, giving you 2x rotation.
> if you are applying torque to someone, then that thing is applying an equal and opposite torque back
Yes, just like with a force.
> but in the real world there is friction and air resistance where you have to keep applying torque to keep something spinning at the same rate
Yes, but I think you are forgetting one thing: If the friction is between the rotor and the body, then this friction does not only act on the rotor, but also on the body. I.e. the friction creates a pair of torques which the engine can perfectly counteract with it's own pair of torques.
If the friction is between the rotor and the air, then yes, the spacecraft needs some kind of counteraction or it will start turning.
I don’t have a firm grasp of the article, but isn’t the force balanced in this case since the two rotors, linked together, sandwich the stator? If I understood correctly, this would mean the thrust bearing would only feel the imbalance between the two sides.
So at 0 degrees, increasing torque will, say, increase pitch of the "right-hand" blade while decreasing pitch of the "left-hand" one. But at 180 degrees it will be the opposite. This has the presumably beneficial effect of allowing the craft to climb by simply increasing rotor speed steadily (it will "wobble" a bit but in a spiral fashion which will let it climb without too much inefficiency). Put another way, this means that increasing torque at 0 degrees but decreasing it at 180 degrees allows an asymmetrical pitch to be maintained at a rotational speed which can be seen as constant (over the long term).
In other words, your intuition falls down because the mechanism is not as symmetrical as your brain wants it to be at first glance. Symmetry is an intuitive and attractive for mechanical systems, but it is actually limiting in many cases, and this is a great example.
reply