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I think Cerebus is not a very good answer to the concerns brought up in this piece.


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I don't have the time at the moment to unpack all of his points; many of them are valid concerns, but I don't find any two of them especially convincing enough to abandon the objectively ( :) ) superior actor model.

His reasoning is alright, his solution is bad, not sure if for the lack of knowledge of MPAs (like Astro) which fix the problems he is talking about.

I don't know, to me he presents at least one pretty compelling point indicating that point. The species which exhibit the exaggerated facial features could not even form a fist with which to fight.

I don't think that what Yossi said is even correct, much less an accurate representation of Moore's point of view.

I don't have a lot of trust in Larry Niven's arguments.

I also agree that this is probably true, but it doesn't mean that his arguments are good.

It does, unfortunately, have a bit of an "Old man yells at cloud" tone to it. And I don't see any solid evidence for his arguments beyond appeal-to-authority in that essay.

He has been criticized for a lack of rigor in his assertions.

No. I don't like it either. I really had two points, my personal disbelief in his line of reasoning AND The guardian taking a both sides approach. I undersold that side,a point you make better.

I wonder why he dislikes the (void)-cast solution.

I agree with him, but I don't think the alternatives he proposed are reasonable for most people.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but can you just mention specifically what you didn't like about his analysis (and I'm using the term 'analysis' very loosely)?

Refuting an authors point with a fairly lengthy reply that doesn't address a single specific point of his is just as useless, albeit not as dangerous, as a over-generalized analysis piece.


Sure, not everyone agrees with his theory. However, that's not the point of the article. :)

I have, and I think he's right.

I don't think picking apart the (assumed) experience of the author in this way is conducive to a high quality discussion.


Why do you think his analysis is incorrect?

Which makes me question the validity of his work. If he's so concerned about an adversary, IMHO it appears as though he believes his work will not stand up to scrutiny.

I'm not in their camp, but I think Marc failed to adequately address / refute doomer's arguments

Yeah, I read his other response in my RSS feed and was totally let down; it didn't seem to address any of the real issues. This piece does.

I found that article frustrating for its refusal or inability to directly evaluate the theory. Was his response along those lines?
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