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about: Random developer with focus on distributed computing, secure systems, compilers and graphics stuff.

Dreamer that some day all major systems programming languages will support some form of automatic memory management.

Nowadays mostly busy with distributed systems across JVM/ART, CLR, Web platforms.




I really hope that of all those issues that were raised over the last weeks some make it out of our tech bubble into the consumer world. All of us know pretty well by now that this software is probably never going to be trustworthy and shouldn’t be used for any purposes that require confidentiality or authenticity, but I’m afraid that this is overshadowed by their “military-grade” marketing efforts for people outside of this scene.

It will be, we just need a couple more lawsuits about faulty software and security exploits.

I love interactive tutorials! I wish there would be one for python I could pass around (is there?).

The timeouts on this particular page could use some tweaking, though.


Looks nice.

Maybe some kind of GUI would be better, as a way to ease typing commands.

Something like Pythonista or Lisping on iOS.


It's not operator overloading. It's using symbols as function names. Some operators like (<>) may have different implementations based on the Monoid instance of the underlying types, but they are based on laws which is different from say Python where >> can mean anything based on the context (even though it is used sparingly there).

That is what I keep repeating when people complain about operator overloading.

It is just symbolic names, like doing abstract mathematics with letters instead of numbers.

Except for C, Java and Go, all the remaining mainstream languages allow for symbolic names in the functions/methods.

I never understood what was the big deal.


I would love to watch that. Sounds really exciting.

It would be interesting to see it happening.

And thus will never work with CSPs (with a reasonable level of enforced rules).

Interesting to know, as mentioned I never saw them being allowed.

Yap, there was a change in the NumberPicker that seemed to have caused it: https://github.com/android/platform_frameworks_base/commit/a...


I don't see the problem. Version numbers no longer matter as long as browsers are concerned. IE is an exception, as always.

The problem is that it doesn't matter only to IE, but to every version of a specific browser.

Nowadays people are not only using desktop computers. Many of the computer form factors used nowadays almost never update, yet one needs to support them.

EDIT: Typo version => browser.


Yap, there was a change in the NumberPicker that seemed to have caused it: https://github.com/android/platform_frameworks_base/commit/a...


I'm pretty interested in seeing where Chrome OS will lead us to. I heard a lot of talk lately about moving support and other browser-based jobs to a Chromebook. If Google could gain a foothold in the business world, we could see a shift there.

After watching this session and having seen the focus on making Android apps better citizens shown at Google IO and Android Developer Summit, I got this gut feeling that Chrome OS might actually be where Google is heading to, and not Fuchsia.

I don't envision they will keep three development teams doing OSes for the same hardware form factors.

Now regarding ChromeOS vs plain GNU/Linux, macOS or Windows, I don't see a value, specifically given the prices of Chromebooks able to have Crostini enabled.


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