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^^^ exactly! People just don't understand how bad the traffic and transportation systems around here can be, especially the northbound evening commute hours.

My choice would have been IBM though, being as far as I can recall the most distant major tech campus from San Francisco. It's 90 minutes by car or 3 hours by train.



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nobody moves to the bay area to work for IBM

Had a couple colleagues when I lived in Austin leave for SF to work for IBM...

I think it's safe to say that literally thousands of people have moved to the Bay Area for work for IBM.

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