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kronos29296 | karma 359 | avg karma 1.51 · 2017-07-04 08:49:39+00:00

Maybe something like GNU social. They already use Gitlab CE for the repos. Add gitter and we have replaced IRC.

kobeya | karma 2900 | avg karma 2.03 · 2017-07-04 10:01:39+00:00

You say that as if it's a good thing...

kronos29296 | karma 359 | avg karma 1.51 · 2017-07-04 11:11:53

IRC is not going anywhere but projects like neovim use gitter primarily while IRC is linked using a bot. They view the IRC chat in gitter.

Dunno if Gitter is better than IRC as I have only used for help and support (for me) but Gitter was far easier to use than IRC. Just Login and start chatting.

I don't think IRC is going anywhere either... We just have alternatives to freenode now in Gitter

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mydigitalself | karma 416 | avg karma 3.71 · 2017-07-04 11:20:05+00:00

Gitter has had an IRC bridge since pretty much day 1. This allows you to connect to Gitter via any IRC client.

https://irc.gitter.im

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detaro | karma 40664 | avg karma 1.79 · 2017-07-04 11:38:31+00:00

it's not very comfortable to use though. Partially because the gitter features don't match how IRC is used 1:1, partially because it seems to have some bugs and sometimes does the simplest possible but uncomfortable thing (which might now get fixed!)

unhammer | karma 2353 | avg karma 2.65 · 2017-07-04 12:18:14

Apropos, does anyone know of a hosting provider with one-click installs of Weechat? It would be nice to have something slightly more self-hosted than irccloud to recommend to the GsoC/GCI students who keep disconnecting from freenode :)

(You'd think with all the Wordpress one-click-installs that this would exists, but I can't find any yet at least.)

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l2dy | karma 3186 | avg karma 11.02 · 2017-07-04 13:52:15+00:00

I'd suggest using Riot.

See https://opensource.com/article/17/5/introducing-riot-IRC, https://about.riot.im/ and https://matrix.org/.

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kuschku | karma 11518 | avg karma 1.46 · 2017-07-04 14:02:34+00:00

Actually, there is. There’s a sandstorm config for Quassel, with webinterface, quassel bouncer, etc included.

I’m not sure if quassel-irssi is also included, but that and quassel-rest-search should be easy to add.

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kobeya | karma 2900 | avg karma 2.03 · 2017-07-04 13:48:00+00:00

Does Gitter have federated servers using a standard protocol and a vast array of programmable extensions? None of these hosted solutions are even in the same league as IRC, and we are worse off for it.

cpitman | karma 1801 | avg karma 3.92 · 2017-07-04 15:39:07+00:00

As someone who has written an IRC server implementation, there is no standard protocol. There is an RFC, but no one implements it. Instead, each server uses its own mix of poorly documented pseudo-standards.

voltagex_ | karma 10530 | avg karma 1.86 · 2017-07-05 05:36:49+00:00

IRCv3 FTW. I don't think they'll achieve their goals before IRC completely dies, though.

cpitman | karma 1801 | avg karma 3.92 · 2017-07-10 01:14:14+00:00

Last I checked, IRCv3 had also given up standardizing the server-to-server protocol.

hobarrera | karma 1442 | avg karma 1.22 · 2017-07-04 15:50:31

IRC isn't federated either, FWIW.

kobeya | karma 2900 | avg karma 2.03 · 2017-07-04 15:59:32+00:00

IRC is federated. It's just a closed federation of fully trusted servers, whereas you probably took me to mean an open federation which it is not.

owebmaster | karma 31 | avg karma 0.05 · 2017-07-04 17:39:35+00:00

> IRC is not going anywhere

I don't know if this still holds true. I've been a IRC user for ~20 years and the current state is a fraction of the fraction of it was once before. Compared with the entire internet, it can already be considered irrelevant, imo.

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kronos29296 | karma 359 | avg karma 1.51 · 2017-07-05 07:33:08+00:00

IRC as general chatting service is outdated. IRC as communication between developers and for tech support is relevant because it's easier and simpler to set up and use.