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It's treasonous not to trust the 17 intelligence agencies.


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Your irony is too subtle.

I can't tell if you're just using sarcasm here, but there's nothing "treasonous" about not trusting intelligence agencies that throughout history have not been very trustworthy.

You should also stop using "treason" incorrectly. Here [1] is a great debate between Glenn Greenwald and James Risen where Glenn breaks down how important it is to not use Treason in an incorrect manner, and explains (sourced) exactly what Treason is defined as under US law with examples throughout history.

[1] https://youtu.be/LsY70_uIXNc?t=5m34s


The missed penny is what notable persons have long and loudly proclaimed distrust of the US Intelligence Community.

Yeah well, a broken clock can still be right twice a day.

Interesting to have Greenwald define treason. Is he trying to keep himself out of that illustrious crowd? Guess living in a foreign country makes one braver than usual.

It's not Greenwald's definition - he sourced it in the video from Article 3, Section 3 of the Constitution:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiii

And then goes on to cite previous court cases and what charges were actually brought in them.


It's nice to see someone say that when a person would be hounded to no end online if they showed any skepticism of intelligence agencies' assertions that Russia meddled in the 2016 elections

whether I am addressing this to you or the audience: it has come out in the years since that in fact the US intelligence community agreed there was no credible threat of WMDs in Iraq, but they mostly kept their mouth shut when the Bush administration claimed otherwise.

That's also my impression. I followed that closely.

It's also my impression that the US intelligence community tried to warn the Bush administration about the 9/11 attackers, but that Condoleezza Rice blew them off.[0]

0) https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/11/cia-director...


> It's also my impression that the US intelligence community tried to warn the Bush administration about the 9/11 attackers, but that Condoleezza Rice blew them off.

Nah, the official report from the CIA was FOIAed. IMO this meme that the CIA saw it all right is just Washington internal politics leaking out.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/259216899/Iraq-October-2002-NIE-o...

Page 13

> High Confidence

> * Iraq is continuing, and in some cases expanding, its biological, nuclear and missile programs contrary to UN resolutions.

The report also spends a long time parroting that yellowcake BS too.


But it wasn't just the CIA. I've read that the NSA had intercepts.[0] And regarding the NSA, I tend to trust Bamford. I also gather that NSA staff didn't want to reveal too many specifics, to avoid compromising methods etc, and that their reticence proved counterproductive.

The FBI were reportedly also close to the hijackers.[1] And they also have lots of data on Saudi connections.[2]

Also, there used to be an article on salon.com about a team of Mossad agents that was tracking the 9/11 hijackers. But now I don't find it. As I recall, there were connections to young Mossad agents in the US, who posed as artists, selling their work door-to-door.[3] I've also read that it was rather a rite of passage for young agents. With the US being relatively safe for training.

0) https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/07/21/missed-calls-nsa-terror...

1) https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=129563&page=1

2) https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-fbi-is-keeping-80000-secre...

3) https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel...


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