Same here. I am so disappointed by all the crazy things this so called president did in the last few years.The word "President" use to carry a lot of respect.
There was nothing that respectable about Bush or Obama (or Clinton, or Older Bush) either if you really looked at their records.
Foreigners do not get to see the bad state democracy is in here in the US, between the corruption, the heavy corporate funding of candidates and the lobbyists, the corporate control of media, and the suppression of voters.
A lot of choice, especially the president is decided for people, and what people see and hear is heavily controlled by the media which themselves are beholden to the same large corporate interests that finance the elections. We just had what would pass as a very centrist candidate in any European country compared to a communist and a nazi and suggested that he would hang people in Central Park by the media that was supposed to be informing people. All because he wanted to do a few things like spend 1/7th of our military budget to give people free college education. The corporate and establishment interests had a freak out at the prospect and wound up spending over $1 billion during the primary against him. All to ensure that voters are once again left with a choice between a guy who will do more of the same things that have been a problem, and another guy who will also do more of the same things. That’s what you are up against. That’s why it’s not just as simple as “vote him out”.
The idea that Bernie would be centrist in Europe is an American political meme. Europeans who are familiar with him do not consider him centrist, and there are some issues on which he's actually further from the mainstream in most European countries.
Oh come on man. Any president is far better than Trump, who just lie and act like there's nothing wrong with it. Trump's twitter feed is full of compeltely false claims and racist comments to anyone he believe is a politcal threat.
I share this viewpoint personally. My view of America, and indeed Americans, changed radically and permanently after the Iraq invasion.
It revolts me to see GWB on the talk show circuit, being buddys with Ellen and the media portraying him as some cutesy old geezer on to show off his amateur paintings.
i don't think it will be a final straw - i think it could be a confluence of things though
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Come on man, get off your high horse. European here, and lets just say that Europe has its own major problems. Italy has Salvini, UK Boris Johnson (trump mini-mi), Sweden is bungling the covid-19 pretty badly, Hungary has Orban, Poland messed up their Judicial system, Sarcozy is going a criminal investigation, and Macron had hundreds and thousands of protestors just last year.
Almost every country can produce bad/authoritarian/populist leaders time to time.
The point is to learn and not keep them in long term. Trump is probably done, and he will loose next election badly. These are his narcissistic hissy fits, as he knows he is losing badly. The US has a very healthy democracy in the long run, and term limits help on this. There is no chance in Trump turning into a Erdogan, or Hungary's Orban. He most likely will be voted out this upcoming election.
Well, there is no last straw for his hardcore supporters. They will support him no matter what he does.
There are many, many of us here who have been doing our best to get rid of him for the last 3.5 years, and to prevent him from having a second term. The majority of the country disapproves of him, but that's unfortunately not enough to get him to lose the election.
> America, when are you going to give up on this idiot?
Let me put it this way: he's a terrific final act. A great summation of what has been a story with its ups-and-downs, but is primarily a lesson in what not to do.
> I’m genuinely curious, what’s the last straw?
Is there evidence for the idea that large changes to political structures are made on the basis of last straws? I surmise that this is not a terribly useful lens.
> He takes a dump on the Whitehouse lawn in order to show how powerful he is?
My experience is that very few Americans have any pride for the whitehouse lawn (and for the things I presume for which you are using it as a metaphor). The grandeur of the American state is not a source of inspiration for us.
> My view of America has forever changed, no matter who comes next.
Then I suspect your view has become more acute and more accurate. Our government has failed us for generations, but done so with a slick veneer of statesmanship and sobriety. This idiot, as you rightly say, is giving what we've endured a face.
I’m genuinely curious, what’s the last straw? He takes a dump on the Whitehouse lawn in order to show how powerful he is?
My view of America has forever changed, no matter who comes next.
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