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Perhaps I am naive, but I'm going to guess that whoever Reddit's counsel is was briefly cleared on this.


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Absolutely. It’s a bet. Heads, it works. Tails, Condé Nast becomes known for litigation against the Trump DOJ, fighting against systemic racism.

For the lawyers, it beats mopping up Bon Appetit’s editor in brownface.


So requiring to pay for a position only for a specific skin color is not actual systemic racism, as long as color is not white, because white people are racists and this fights against that, or am I completely missing the mark?

I'm sure people here are also well versed in silicon valley HR hiring practices regarding skin color based quotas.


I think OP's point has to do with the perceived value of their moral signaling vs the actual morals themselves.

It is a win-win for Reddit in terms of perception, whether they have to fight a case because of it or not. If anything, this would be an 'any publicity is good publicity' situation.

Now if it is actually inline with a truly moral stance...who cares. In this system there are only 3 morals. Money, money and more money.


I was explicitly not taking a position on the action itself. I’m honestly interested to see how this might open a company to litigation.

1. A director looks more like an employee post-AB5, so it could be employment discrimination in California.

2. Independent contractors are protected against some race-based mistreatment in California.

3. The Unruh Act prohibits California businesses from race discrimination in offering “advantages” and “privileges” to non employees.

4. The next employee fired will have a much better case that their employment was terminated based on race — as Reddit openly does make decisions based on race.

Granted, there are responses to all of these. Maybe even constitutional defenses. Maybe they’ll argue some other state’s laws apply, but all US states have pretty broad non discrimination laws — for a reason.


Section 2750.3 of the California Labor Code was added by AB5, and specifically excludes board members as employees.

Like many things around AB5, that's not straightforward. They'd have to severely limit his actual involvement to avoid employee status.

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/do-directors-avoid-empl...


A director of the company will easily pass the ABC test anyway. Especially given that he's a director at lots of other companies and has an existing full time job.

In the past, SCOTUS has ruled that laws banning discrimination only grant new rights to the group the legislators were interested in helping. So anti-age discrimination laws only prevent discriminating against the old, not the young. If you understand the politics of race in America, it will actually not be very interesting to see how US courts will rule here.

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