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I sure love having a faceless trillion-dollar company making choices for me to try to keep me and my device safe.


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Well, they have a good enough track record so far. If you feel the iPhone is unsafe, you're free to buy a different phone or not use one at all.

Why would Apple be less incentivized than another company, like Epic, to protect your data? Apple sells the iPhone and markets it toward pro-privacy and security. Going against that is not in their own best interest. It's in Epic's interest to break through that, because then they can use dark patterns and break privacy restrictions (as other companies will and intend to do).

Again, it's no surprise that as Apple has been more user-focused and privacy-focused in their continued iPhone and iOS development that developers are feeling the squeeze when they want to use dark patterns, so naturally they'll try and break out of that so they can go back to their old bad habits again.


>Why would Apple be less incentivized than another company, like Epic, to protect your data?

Probably because their store doesn't have to compete? I would say they really are not doing a good job at this considering their track record contains plenty of dark patterns, privacy violations, tracking, data mining, censorship, and so on. If you don't believe me I can provide plenty of examples. The situation might be marginally better than a low-end Android device that typically comes loaded with OEM malware, but that's not saying much.


They do a lot better than a hypothetical Facebook store, which Epic suit would make possible.

I would rather that the industry adopt higher standards for itself or the government play a regulatory role (or that everyone spontaneously develops a higher level of morality and social responsibility). Putting all of our trust into one corporation, no matter how big its market cap, is just asking for a single point of failure. Not to mention, Apple can always change its attitudes toward security, and then there wouldn’t be anyone left to speak for you.

I mean if Apple changes their ways then the only loss will be that they're finally on par with Windows and Android.

This, except unironically. I am just one person, who has no leverage whatsoever against companies using dark patterns and scamware. I like having someone with sufficient leverage fighting in my corner.

If you don't want that, that's totally fine: Android is right over there.


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