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weare138 | karma 3990 | avg karma 4.2 · 2021-03-10 03:54:39+00:00

>The cameras were located in offices that have been officially closed for nearly a year.

This explanation begs the obvious question, why were they still connected to Cloudflare's internal network for nearly a year? Does Cloudflare just keep paying rent for 'officially closed' offices? Obviously this ArsonCats group is exaggerating the extent of the hack but this official explanation from Cloudflare doesn't exactly pass the sniff test either.

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kentonv | karma 16335 | avg karma 7.39 · 2021-03-10 03:59:54+00:00

> Does Cloudflare just keep paying rent for 'officially closed' offices?

Well... yes. We intend to open them again when the pandemic is over.

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mrits | karma 2104 | avg karma 2.06 · 2021-03-10 04:01:39

Paying rent for closed offices is common, especially with COVID. Commercial leases aren't usually 1 year like residential.

russell_h | karma 1656 | avg karma 4.11 · 2021-03-10 04:03:12+00:00

I don’t know about Cloudflare specifically, but almost every Cloudlfare-sized tech company in SF has had their offices closed to employees for a year. Most of them plan to reopen and are continuing to pay rent.

Under those circumstances it definitely makes sense to keep the cameras on.

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mathattack | karma 18067 | avg karma 2.35 · 2021-03-10 04:05:27+00:00

Occam’s razor. The simplest solution....

weare138 | karma 3990 | avg karma 4.2 · 2021-03-10 09:51:05+00:00

I understand this and that's the point I'm trying to make here. The statement is just deflecting and downplaying the issue. What exactly does 'officially closed' mean? The office wasn't 'officially closed', it was unoccupied because of COVID. It was still paid for by Cloudflare and on it's network. The statement is purposefully misleading.

meibo | karma 4198 | avg karma 6.24 · 2021-03-10 04:06:25+00:00

Well, you'd also keep your security cameras on when going on vacation, it's just that covid is a lot more painful than a vacation.

bryan_w | karma 789 | avg karma 1.41 · 2021-03-10 05:00:45+00:00

"It's just going to be two weeks."

efficax | karma 1832 | avg karma 2.98 · 2021-03-10 04:19:17

It's called a lease, but also it's likely some small numbers of staff visit the offices from time to time