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docgnome | karma 1078 | avg karma 3.58 · 2011-08-10 19:03:12+00:00

It's a bit comparing apples to oranges. If you were comparing say Cake or Zend to RoR and Django then it would be a reasonable comparison.

rick888 | karma 732 | avg karma 0.65 · 2011-08-10 14:33:57

It doesn't stop the hordes of programmers on HN talking about Ror and Django and Cherry pi as an alternative to PHP.

ericd | karma 12063 | avg karma 2.38 · 2011-08-10 20:21:57

It's not really apples and oranges - writing a website in raw Ruby is not a very feasible or popular option, whereas writing a website in raw PHP is. It is valid to compare writing a site in PHP and writing a website in Rails. It is also valid to compare writing one in Cake vs. RoR, as well as Cake vs. raw PHP (or a custom PHP framework, which is what raw PHP inevitably becomes in a sufficiently large project).