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Yeah, sorry, don't really put much weight into that. Fauci is a dedicated civil servant and pretty much everything he does is seen by large numbers of people. Oh, look: https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-170254166936

If my goal was to cast fear, uncertainty and doubt into vaccines, I think I'd be able to weave a far more convincing web of lies that the folks worrying about a married NIH power couple.

I guess the way I look at Fauci is that he already proved his value in the HIV/AIDS crisis and it would be crazy not to trust somebody with that level of knowledge, levelheadedness, and connections.



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Connections for posing for pictures with Trump doesn't prove medical ability.

During AIDS outbreak, Fauci pushed for FDA to approve the toxic and expensive drug known as AZT which was eventually discontinued. https://www.spin.com/2015/10/aids-and-the-azt-scandal-spin-1...

Bactrim was cheap and not approved. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/whitewashing-aids-history_b_4...

'Dr. Anthony Fauci is rewriting history. He is doing so to disguise his shameful role in delaying promotion of an AIDS treatment that would have prevented tens of thousands of deaths in the first years of the epidemic.

In my book, Body Counts, A Memoir of Politics, Sex, AIDS, and Survival, I recount how slow the federal government was in publicizing the use of Bactrim and other sulfa drugs to prevent PCP (the pneumonia that was then the leading killer of people with AIDS) in addition to its long-time and well-known use to treat PCP.'


I'm sorry exactly what are you saying is wrong with AZT? It wasn't discontinued, it's still in use and was the first drug that really started to turn around HIV. I know all about this because my research into pharmaceutical chemistry during my phd contained a lot about nucleoside analogs (I worked with a similarly toxic one, gemcitabine), and because I was working near the forefront of HIV antiviral research at the time.

Bactrim addresses a symptom of AIDS (specifically, a side bacterial infecftion that many people infected with HIV are prone to getting) while AZT reduces viral infections. Two completely different things. The former is for people who are infected, the latter for people to not get infected. The fog of virus is like the fog of war: easy to criticize from the distance of time.

I think you've said enough. It's clear what your opinion about Fauci is, and it's adding absolutely nothing to this discussion.


It was the quick magic cure the public was demanding. With more testing it was shown to have significant side effects and is no longer used across the board. https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/the-rise-an... 'The AZT will work for you for a little while, for the maximum of one year, as it did for me, and afterwards the damage became visible.'

I wonder if the current quick magic cure demanded by the public may also overlook harmful side effects. The current pressure to dose those in low risk groups may be short-sighted. Ignoring risks is the subject of the thread.


Like I said earlier, you've said enough. You've exposed yourself as somebody who believes anecdotes, not science.

There are no quick magic cures. AZT made a huge difference for a lot of people but it wasn't until later retrovirals (based on tech that didn't exist at that time) were released. It's still used in combination with other therapy.


You have to admit that a similar development around Covid vaccines would be quite unfortunate.

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