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uoaei | karma 4516 | avg karma 1.21 · 2022-05-04 12:05:22

When is this straw man argument going to die?

josephg | karma 16849 | avg karma 4.67 · 2022-05-04 12:36:28

When people stop feeling attacked when they hear the term “toxic masculinity”.

So, probably never. It’s a bit of a loaded term for lots of folks. I can understand why, even if that’s not how it’s often meant.

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samhw | karma 1762 | avg karma 2.12 · 2022-05-06 11:09:46

I don't really blame them, and I think any group would feel the same to hear one of their personal attributes referred to as intrinsically 'toxic'. If we simply described the personality traits that we meant, we might actually get somewhere (but, from everything I've seen, getting somewhere is not the objective).