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Regimes change. I expect soon. Then what? Are we still locked into opposition with the Russian people? Given a blank slate, what relationship do we want between NATO/EU countries and Russia?


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As a Finn, I sincerely wish we could come along with our Russian neighbors, but Russia need to change for that to happen. Democracy, human rights and the concepts freedom of speech, freedom of press and a concept of transparent, rule-based society with little corruption are the keywords, but they haven't truly taken root in the Russian culture and system of thought.

And it will! Then what?

Assuming the regime falls and leaves a power vacuum, what do you think the best way to help the people toward that is?

My greatest concern is what comes next. The current regime is a kleptocracy, which is awful for the people, but easy to predict and control and siphon cheap natural resources from. They stay in power partly by fear of EU/NATO, but it’s questionable support. Once the kleptocracy is gone, EU/NATO can either embrace Russia or maintain the current stance against them. Embracing Russia will diminish EU/NATO power and purpose. Maintaining the current stance will push the country toward extreme nationalism with a regime that has nothing to lose, while strengthening the alliance against them. There will not be a clear decision point to switch course; it will either be gradual de-escalation on both sides, or gradual strengthening.


That sounds like a super hard problem, because USSR already collapsed once, and stuff seemed like it was going to a better direction, but in the end we got Putin. Also, it's in interests of China to keep a some kind of power balance, so at least I think that EU/NATO shouldn't think the fate of Russia as "not my problem", or else China might do some opportunistic power plays.

Oh, let's have some other examples: Japan is doing great these days. I cannot help but think that the American occupation was beneficial for the country. (To be sure, I'm NOT arguing that the nuclear weapons were warranted.)

On the other hand, Afganistan yielded to Taliban right away as the US forces retreated. So clearly your mileage may vary with interventions!


Look into the the other political parties in Russia and their views towards the west and you'll get your answer

None

NATO is opposed to Russia insofar as it has a mutual defence pact against any Invader.

If Russia isn't invading any NATO country then there's no opposition.


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