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philliphaydon | karma 7580 | avg karma 2.32 · 2022-12-01 06:17:15

Where exactly does this “Han” stuff come from because most people in China are not actually han and those in Taiwan are not han.

ajross | karma 32824 | avg karma 3.42 · 2022-12-01 06:21:38

I'm using what amounts to this definition, under which, yes, Taiwan and China are both majority Han: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Chinese

As stated, ethnicity is complicated and people everywhere want to have fights over these subjects. I won't engage, that's pointless.

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philliphaydon | karma 7580 | avg karma 2.32 · 2022-12-01 07:07:12

Oh so it doesn’t actually have anything to do with blood or descent. Just cultural inheritance from han dynasty.

ajross | karma 32824 | avg karma 3.42 · 2022-12-01 08:15:40

I know I said I wouldn't engage, but just to point out: nothing in the linked page substantiates "doesn't actually have anything to do with". I'm not interested in getting into an ethnicity argument, but please don't misrepresent source material.

HDThoreaun | karma 3963 | avg karma 1.46 · 2022-12-01 11:02:13

The vast majority of Chinese and Taiwanese identify as Han. China is effectively an ethnostate that is cleansing minorities.

philliphaydon | karma 7580 | avg karma 2.32 · 2022-12-01 17:22:47

Most people in Taiwan don’t identify as Han.

HDThoreaun | karma 3963 | avg karma 1.46 · 2022-12-02 09:36:20

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan

95% Han

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philliphaydon | karma 7580 | avg karma 2.32 · 2022-12-02 09:40:39

People in Taiwan don't walk down the street saying "im han im han im han"... They don't call themselves 'han chinese', they don't call themselves 'chinese'.

If you read what I wrote.

> Most people in Taiwan don’t identify as Han.

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