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Clearly designed by someone who only uses one language.

The one most used element for me was the side bar, where I could hover over the language to see the translation of some term. Now it's hidden behind a click, and a looot of scrolling. Just try to reach Svenska.

I can work around the style changes easily with custom CSS and stylus, but I'm not impressed by that change.



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The extra click is an inconvenience that they also noted themselves. But it definitely was designed with multilingual use in mind, see here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Desktop_Improveme...

Thank goodness they are not as hung up on having a button as it initially appears:

"We are currently considering adding single-click functionality for the most-frequently used languages."

Sadly, while that means that the overall experience will be improved, it will solve exactly nothing for those who are unlucky enough to use a less-frequently-used language.


I think they might mean most-frequently used of that user (I think the "suggested languages" already are supposed to work like that.) But that presumably requires an account.

It has already taken multiple clicks for users wanting to read English Wikipedia in a language that wasn't one of the nine in the sidebar. In fact, clicking the "287 more" link at the bottom of the left sidebar in the old design brought up the exact same box that clicking the "297 languages" link at the top of the new design does, with the same list of languages in the same order.

Alternatively, one could create an account and set a default language, or visit a wikipedia site dedicated to that language.

https://en.wikipedia.org vs https://zh.wikipedia.org for example.

Once you've switched, further links within the site should keep you in that language.


I've always seen all the language links in the sidebar without clicking anything. I can see how, if you have had a different experience, the new arrangement might seem less of a disruption.

Wow! So if you go to this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia?useskin=vector

You see something different from this? https://ibb.co/pKbgw6w

Are you logged in, perhaps?


Not logged in.

This is the first link: https://paste.pics/dca5897542c8fb939608262307aeafed

Many thanks for the query workaround!


Fascinating! Thanks.

I'm guessing the difference is due to disabled JS in my browser.

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