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Google needs to stop throwing good money after Bard (www.theverge.com) similar stories update story
32 points by redbell | karma 9307 | avg karma 6.18 2023-05-11 18:56:25 | hide | past | favorite | 23 comments



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Look how well the stock has done since IPO. Google has survived all competition thus far. For this reason, given Google's 2-decade track record, I trust google management more than I trust some writer. It's a long-shot bet with huge potential payoff.

Wouldn’t it It would be enough for Google to release something as good as ChatGPT-4, for basically free, crushing any competition. Then going back to doing whatever they want ?

No, there is no going back anymore, for many queries, LLMs are superior to search that came before. Google is certainly at an advantage because their traditional search is better than others, so when MSFT & GOOG both try to integrate LLMs with real time information, GOOG still has the upper hand.

They have the upper hand in many many ways, hardware, ability to scale, access to high quality information, that's just to name a few.

they are probably running away from it to avoid a bunch of law suits. Google can't simply read other's websites and sell it as there own content.

Here's the thing, a publication will peddle several hot takes like these for fanboys on social media to utilize as a citation to prop up their flimsy opinions, thus driving traffic to them. The opinions themselves don't matter, they don't even need to stand by them. What counts is revenue from ads.

agree 100% with this

> What counts is revenue from ads.

You’ll be shocked when you find out what’s paying for Google’s AI development


What's that got to do with The Verge? Jackshit.

Google I/O was a massive ad trip. Bard is still pretty bad compared to GPT-4. If you tweak their own examples a bit, Bard basically craps out. This is pretty amazing given they have all the talent, compute and data in the world.

I would be willing to bet $10 that this whole article was written primarily in order to give substance to its perfectly excellent headline pun.

Google and their associated properties have felt stagnant and boring for a long time now. Imagine if everything they had announced at IO 2023 had instead been announced a year ago, prior to ChatGPT becoming a household name. They had all the money and talent in the world to reinvent themselves, but chose instead to rest on their laurels. IO 2023 could be summed up with "we're going to be doing everything Microsoft has already started doing".

'Samesies' is a viable corpo strategy, right?

> Microsoft has already started doing

Can you point to some specific examples of things announced in IO that Microsoft is already doing?


In addition to search integration, there's also the integration of ai assistants across Office 360, Outlook etc.

I have a memory like a sieve, forgive me if I can't recall everything.


> I have a memory like a sieve, forgive me if I can't recall everything.

Well, good thing I didn't say all specific examples.

Anyway, thanks! I didn't know they had copilot in 365.


I think HN users are over indexing on capabilities to solve complex problems, I was looking for something simple like "why diane feinstein is in capitol today", bard knew the answer whereas chatgpt doesnt answer the question. another example was "why is jaime foxx in hospital", i think these are the question that people usually have where bard is much better equipped at.

Maybe just maybe… As an AI language model, ChatGPT does not have access to real-time information unless it's provided to it. Its knowledge cutoff date is September 2021.

Chatgpt when it debuted stated its knowledge was restricted on current events.


yea but that's regular people's usecase, if they train and provide it for free for sure they'd be better option but in current form bard feels more useful for me.

You could use bing chat for this.

How good is bing at this? It is hooked up to bing search, so it has access to current event.

Tried to check it but bing wouldn't let me query without downloading edge so I gave up.

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