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The ad hominem is completely uncalled for and makes you look like an insecure jerk...


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So a guy who was working a warehouse job and tumbled into the industry as some kind of "web dev" fewer than ten years ago offers sage advice like:

> Moreover, I hope nobody after age 29 actually lives and breathes code, even if they really like programming.

and

> A lot of those high-passion types are overly intellectual douchebag types who slow down the development process because someone didn't use their preferred design pattern. Do you really want to be one of them?

Do you realize that none of the software you use day-to-day would exist if people thought like ravenstine? Like I said, some people are not cut out for this kind of work at all and would be better to leave the industry. Actual programmers will read ravenstine's comments without context or research and believe they're reading career wisdom, rather than the anti-intellectual frustrations of mediocrity.

In context, ravenstine is saying "I should have stopped caring after a few years working as a software developer" which was their situation at 29. Commendable self-awareness, but this isn't therapy.


> So a guy who was working a warehouse job and tumbled into the industry as some kind of "web dev" fewer than ten years ago offers sage advice like:

So a guy hiding behind a throwaway account offers us his opinion on how experienced someone must be before they can provide their opinion?

An opinion is all you have, because we know nothing about you other than that you think that a number means anything.

> who was working a warehouse job

That's some grade-A elitism you have there, btw.

> Do you realize that none of the software you use day-to-day would exist if people thought like ravenstine?

What exactly do you think I do all day? Are you hiding behind your cute little throwaway account because you want to dig into people's history on HN and casually insult them without anyone figuring out who you are?

Do us a service and provide your real HN or LinkedIn so we can all know what company not to work for.

> Like I said, some people are not cut out for this kind of work at all and would be better to leave the industry.

Pure elitism. No, we don't need people like you in the software industry, or really any industry. You're an insufferable jerk, and I hope you don't treat your coworkers this way. Nobody cares how smart or experienced you are. If you think that people who don't drink the passion kool-aid are a bunch of do-nothings that ruin codebases and get nothing done, and that viewpoint informs how you work with other developers, then you're the one who doesn't belong.

> Actual programmers will read ravenstine's comments without context or research and believe they're reading career wisdom

Because "actual" programmers can't think for themselves?

> rather than the anti-intellectual frustrations of mediocrity.

sigh

> In context, ravenstine is saying "I should have stopped caring after a few years working as a software developer"

No. If you were accurate, you'd have paraphrased me as saying "I should have cared less earlier in my career as a software developer". Not "stopped caring", you fool.

> which was their situation at 29

Wrong again, okbuddylol or whatever your actual name is. Maybe you can share your identity with us? Just give us your real HN account so I can determine what level of coding wizard you are.

> Commendable self-awareness, but this isn't therapy.

Spare us, why don't you.


Also, which is the ad hominem? Well, my comment surely is, it pulls no punches. As for ravenstine, he says that "besides rare exceptions" "it's no like that for everyone" (okay? say something or don't) doing heavy sofware dev after the old age of 29 makes you:

* "overly intellectual douchebag types who slow down the development process"

* "fat, single, and friendless."

Sounds a lot like "NERDS!", forgive me for reading between the lines to find glaring ad hominems https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZEdDMQZaCU


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