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The critics were right on the first iPhone though, I remember it being a flop in my country just because of the lack of MMS support. It's the 3GS that really made the brand. Tech features do matter sometimes.


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> The critics were right on the first iPhone though, I remember it being a flop in my country just because of the lack of MMS support.

which country?


France. Probably like in most of Europe, MMS was the primary means of communication for everybody to share pictures and (very bad quality) short videos along with MSN messenger. The first iPhone had neither.

Phones that didn't have any of that usually were from the older generation like the 3310. That lack of messaging options combined with the very high price at launch made it a non-starter.

All of that got fixed on the 3G.


Well considering that the first iPhone only sold 10 million (the number that SJ said was his goal at introduction) and that it didn’t go on sale in France until 5 months after it was introduced in the US, that’s not really much evidence toward anything.

https://www.thestreet.com/technology/iphone-to-debut-in-fran...


Maybe it's also the lack of unit availability but the fact that you could not communicate with friends made it a non-starter.

In the US the initial iPhone was a bit of a sensation. Demand outstripped supply at first, and people waited outside stores for hours to snag one. It sold less than future models would, because it seemed fairly expensive and the value proposition wasn't yet 100% clear to many. But basically everyone knew about the iPhone and had an opinion one way or the other, generally positive.

Even now the iPhone isn't as popular in mainland Europe as it is in the UK, Ireland, and the US.


Yeah that's a very big contrast to what happened on my side, I remember only one guy I know getting it and he did not use it for long because he couldn't discuss with his friends which were either using mms or msn messenger.

The 3G (without S) was still an amazing phone.

Usually Apple’s 2nd version of anything is the best.

V1 is always missing something important that they couldn’t quite get ready in time.

That is my only hesitation with the Vision Pro! It’s a lot to shell out if next years will have some new and amazing thing


I admit that I did not remember the difference between the 3G and the 3GS when I wrote the comment.

That's the same for every company I think, you always miss stuff when designing the V1


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