You link to a tweet of a deliberately edited speech by Stoltenberg to suit their own agenda. It's the worst kind of propaganda that anyone can see through given five minutes of research. I don't know what's worse, that you presented it as damning evidence or that people take 280 character tweets at face value.
In any case, the full quote with the missing section emphasized in italics is:
> Then lastly on Sweden. First of all, it is historic that now Finland is member of the Alliance. And we have to remember the background. The background was that President Putin declared in the autumn of 2021, and actually sent a draft treaty that they wanted NATO to sign, to promise no more NATO enlargement. That was what he sent us. And was a pre-condition for not invade Ukraine. Of course we didn't sign that.
> The opposite happened. He wanted us to sign that promise, never to enlarge NATO. He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe, we should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance, introducing some kind of B, or second class membership. We rejected that.
> So he went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO, close to his borders. He has got the exact opposite. He has got more NATO presence in eastern part of the Alliance and he has also seen that Finland has already joined the Alliance and Sweden will soon be a full member. Because at Vilnius Summit, we agreed a statement where it was clearly expressed how Sweden will do more, follow up the agreement we had in Madrid on fighting terrorism, and also address issues related to export of military equipment, and then Türkiye made it clear that they will ratify as soon as possible.
For those who don't see the problem with removing military infrastructure from every former satellite state that fled the USSR it's this: throwing your allies back to the wolves who hunted you is as about as morally bankrupt as it comes.
And just to really make it clear which countries Russia wanted put back to the wilds, it's Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Albania, Croatia, Montenegro, North Macedonia, and Finland.
I don't see how any of the extra context undermines the point that the Ukraine war is primarily in response to NATO expansion. Why is it so hard for people to acknowledge?
The invasion of Ukraine is primarily a desire of conquest. NATO has nothing to do with it. The "request" from Russia is nothing more than a pretense for setting former satellites up for more invasion by their former masters.
We know this is true from a map the dictator of Belarus was seen in front of showing more conquest after Ukraine, specifically of Moldova. We know President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia called the collapse of the Soviet empire “the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century.” His desire for a return to the days of empire is obvious from every aggrandizing speech he makes.
It is convenient that your worldview can absorb any contradictory information such that it all just demonstrates what you already take to be true. A truly masterful reality-distortion field.
>The invasion of Ukraine is primarily a desire of conquest.
No. It is personal desire of Putin to remain in power. Conquest has nothing to do with it either.
I'm not sure how you arrived at that conclusion given the available evidence we have of Putin's many speeches and writings on the matter. And one is not mutually exclusive of the other.
Yeah, and he also gave many speeches and writings about how he is fighting Nazism in Ukraine. Are we seriously going to discuss Putin's speeches? This Putin's rhetoric did not exist before the 2014 revolution in Ukraine.
His intentions have been obvious for a very long time for anyone who wants to see them.
The recent Tucker Carlson interview confirmed that Putin has an uncontrollable obsession with a made up version of history, and he gets visibly upset when his long rants about Ukrainian statehood being an anti-Russian conspiracy by the Austrian General Staff and the Pope get interrupted. Nazis running Ukraine is only a small part of that persecution complex.
Putin's speeches deserve as serious consideration as Hitler's. Until tanks started rolling, his speeches were also dismissed as rhetoric.
Not really. In 2014 Ukraine's NATO aspirations were codified into their constitution. Later that year Russia annexed Crimea and began a slow march towards the current war. To say it was about EU ties sans NATO is just gaslighting.
Absolutely false. We cannot prevent wars if we refuse to engage with reality as it is not as we wish it to be. https://twitter.com/battleforeurope/status/17000929447142730...
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