The submit button isn't the problem. Look at the default HTML styles. What sites out there still use that blue color for a link? It's one of the first things that gets redeclared in CSS.
As far as the audience, yes, I was just messing around with a few apps and looking at them. Each time I felt like there was something drawing me away from using it. Design is not disjointed from app usage. It's part of usability, it's part of the allure of an app. Read up on it.
Also, it's an EASY fix. Don't want to look like every other page hosted on Github or any other small app page? Customize bootstrap. Within 30 minutes, you're capturing audience, but not only that, you're standing out. It may not be specifically that bootstrap usage REPULSES people it may just be it doesn't really get them riled up about your app or make your app memorable.
> What sites out there still use that blue color for a link?
What do you mean that blue? As far as using blue for links go, I scanned my opened tabs and Google, Facebook, Github use blue for links. Bootstrap's blue isn't the browser default blue. They made it blue because most of the users expect links to be blue.
> Design is not disjointed from app usage.
I don't remember claiming it is. The default bootstrap them isn't bad design. It's better than what a typical developer or designer comes up with. Also, the user doesn't give a shit if the buttons look the same on all websites. Most of the users won't even notice.
> It's part of usability, it's part of the allure of an app. Read up on it.
Making links non-blue or changing button colors isn't usability. Read up on it.
> Don't want to look like every other page hosted on Github or any other small app page? Customize bootstrap.
I would do that if I don't want to look like every other bootstrap site. Does this even need to be said?
> Customize bootstrap. Within 30 minutes, you're capturing audience,
I missed the part where you proved changing bootstrap theme captures audience in 30 minutes.
> It may not be specifically that bootstrap usage REPULSES people it may just be it doesn't really get them riled up about your app or make your app memorable.
Since you are throwing around a lot of "maybe" and anecdotes, I will throw one of mine. I am yet to meet someone who is repulsed by bootstrap and is a customer - people who need my app and directly or indirectly pay for it.
"that blue" is the default browser blue and if you check Facebook uses a different blue and doesn't use the default underline, neither does Google and neither does Github. They all changed the default.
I'm not saying it's bad design. And if they don't notice, good for you.
it's part of legibility. And yes, it's part of usability as well
that was a point. Do you want to look like every other page hosted on github or any other small app page?
the article states how long it takes to change to customize bootstrap. It's less than 30 minutes. Within that time, you can have a site that doesn't look like stock bootstrap thus differentiating yourself from the rest of the sites that look exactly the same.
Different audience desires different stuff; however, having a site that keeps away from the default is brandable, much more so than a default Bootstrap site. Branding is marketing 101.
> > What sites out there still use that blue color for a link?
>> "that blue" is the default browser blue and if you check Facebook uses a different blue and doesn't use the default underline, neither does Google and neither does Github. They all changed the default.
Bootstrap doesn't use the default blue either.
> it's part of legibility. And yes, it's part of usability as well
It's part of legibility, but your changes aren't making it any more legible than it already is.
> that was a point. Do you want to look like every other page hosted on github or any other small app page?
Depends.
> Within that time, you can have a site that doesn't look like stock bootstrap thus differentiating yourself from the rest of the sites that look exactly the same.
Again, that depends. Consider freshbooks - a small product I use. It can very well switch to bootstrap theme or geocities era design. I won't give a damn because it's free and serves my purpose. I am pretty sure there are other invoicing solutions out there, but whether they use bootstrap or not(an example; none of them do) isn't a variable in my decision.
> however, having a site that keeps away from the default is brandable, much more so than a default Bootstrap site. Branding is marketing 101.
At this point, I will just agree to disagree. You seem to place a lot of importance on visibly differentiating a product. For me, visibly differentiating(as in changing a few less variables in bootstrap) is so low on the list that it fell down the list.
> What's your site's URL? I'd love to check it out.
Mostly enterprisy stuff. I do contractual work with Ruby/Python/Clojure.
The default HTML styles are fine as they are. You can create a document with no custom styles and it'll be perfectly legible. More to the point, old sites with unstyled HTML documents will remain perfectly legible and structured.
One could argue otherwise that the needs of the web have outgrown HTML as it was originally intended.
As far as the audience, yes, I was just messing around with a few apps and looking at them. Each time I felt like there was something drawing me away from using it. Design is not disjointed from app usage. It's part of usability, it's part of the allure of an app. Read up on it.
Also, it's an EASY fix. Don't want to look like every other page hosted on Github or any other small app page? Customize bootstrap. Within 30 minutes, you're capturing audience, but not only that, you're standing out. It may not be specifically that bootstrap usage REPULSES people it may just be it doesn't really get them riled up about your app or make your app memorable.
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