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When you've never had to work to provide for yourself and others, it's very hard to imagine the damage done from someone losing their job.


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Being without a job is not without risk either.

People who lose their jobs certainly do

If they don't have an employer, they don't have work.

Many would. If you're not rich enough to be able to afford being jobless, risking getting fired over a simple task is a very hard decision to make.

What about people who lose their jobs or don't get hired in the first place?

I think you may have misunderstood my post. A job loss shouldn’t matter, but sadly it does.

Is it better to have a job and lost, than to have never worked at all?

Given how low unemployment is, it makes sense there are more people who fear job loss. In the past, more people were unemployed and thus could not feel afraid of losing something they didn't have.

Suppose your employer is less than ideal but you’re not particularly confident in your ability to get another job should you be laid off. A lot of people feel trapped in this situation every day.

Not everyone has the skills and experience to be in demand. A lot of people feel their current job is the only thing standing between them and the food stamp line. These people should not have to worry about getting sick and losing everything after losing their job.


no one is owed a job, perhaps they saved like rational people and will be fine

Even if we had a healthy market, which we don't, the people who lost their jobs don't have "marginally less" income. They have zero income. They are not happy.

Almost nobody who loses their job wants to. It's still a net win for the economy as a whole that people lose the jobs that are no longer worth doing.

Job loss is not the equivalent of death. Full stop.

It’s not just lack of job it’s also lack of income

Believe me I do have sympathy for those left without a job. I'm without a job right now, and I would very much prefer not to be.

But that doesn't mean I believe in work for the sake of work.


Jobless people are often stressed.

I wonder if this is an American phenomena and might be different in a place with a stronger social safety net?

Frankly, losing your job IS an actual physical danger and a real mental danger. No income, no insurance, have to play the interview game again... Time running out, savings getting gutted (too bad COBRA costs are so high). If you can't find work, well homelessness is a very real possibility (there goes years or decades of equity). There isn't a 'limit' to how far we let people fall, and that's a shame.

I would absolutely expect people in this environment to fight tooth-and-nail for their jobs, and that might result in this kind of resistance to suggestions. Gotta keep yourself and family healthy first and foremost.


Umm, sort of - without employment, one will likely lose any health insurance that one might have had and with that can follow financial ruin. "Lives of quiet desperation" is a fairly accurate description.

> at some decision that could inconvenience them?

Losing one's job is not just an "inconvenience". It is an inconvenience in a country with a social safety net. In a country like the US where job loss often enough means direct loss of health insurance and a place to live, losing a job can (and will) lead to homelessness and eventual death.

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