Definitely. It's an even weirder thing to grumble about here, in that the language change is the means to an end: saving lives.
If somebody were getting all riled up about tomayto versus tomahto), I'd say that a complaint about policing language was reasonable; that really is purely a language thing. But generally when I hear it somebody is actually opposed to a substantive change but won't come right out and say it.
That always seems weird to me. You'd think somebody so excited about being able to say what they want would, y'know, say what they want.
I don't see anything in your list of complaints that is about the actual language, not meekly about the culture surrounding it. The established perceptions of "best practices" are much more in need of a shakeup than the language itself. Maybe replacing the language is the only way to achieve that change, but then it would be more like a necessary sacrifice than a goal on its own.
Yes, a small number of people do care about this -- how many comments are these compared to the ones that are discussing the topic itself?
All I'm saying is: If you're going to try to tell people to not change the language as people seem to want to change it, because you don't want the language to change, then prepare for complaining for a long time with no results.
Yeah, I hear ya. I'm definitely not happy with the current state of affairs myself. I'd like to think there can be some level of precision in our use of language. But sadly, the rest of the world don't seem to care what you and I think. :-(
It hurts the language. People who could help improve and advocate for the language think twice before getting involved.
People want to feel good about their language of choice, see this use something else.
That seems like a whole different problem than the language used. Would it have been acceptable to keep using the original language and still not do anything about it? Probably not.
I don't want to diminish any significant impact it may have on its users, just remarking on the language feeling a bit intense. Hopefully they take the complaints seriously.
Exactly. Didn't make it far through that thread, but what is the proposed alternative?
It's a bizarre, kneejerk reaction by a few people that ultimately may harm an entire language still in its formative years.
So someone has a belief that some feature may have benefit the language, and people are stating they are uncomfortable?
I suspect (as complete outsider) there has to be more going on here and the "uncomfortable" people are not being sincere & honest.
Broadly, my objection is that these linguistic changes have had no positive impact on anything meaningful, and instead act as a corporate smoke screen for real issues.
If somebody were getting all riled up about tomayto versus tomahto), I'd say that a complaint about policing language was reasonable; that really is purely a language thing. But generally when I hear it somebody is actually opposed to a substantive change but won't come right out and say it.
That always seems weird to me. You'd think somebody so excited about being able to say what they want would, y'know, say what they want.
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