That was fantastically thorough. If I still lived in SD I'd ask if you wanted to meet up for a pint. We even share an alma mater (Cal Poly SLO).
I couldn't have put it better myself. And thanks for pointing out that climate change is an issue. I got really, really tired of people saying "gee, this sure is an unusually hot summer. Just like the last one, and the one before that, and the one before that" and yet thinking of climate change as unsettled science. Before weatherspark got rid of their dashboard I could show them that summers in SD ARE definitively hotter than they have been in ages (though there was a hot stretch in the late 70's).
Funny how these ideas are touted until there's an hot summer then all the articles talking about how this _weather_ is a _clear example_ of climate change.
They are basically agreeing to climate change, human intervention etc. And saying in turn what is not settled is how exactly will the climate change in the future.
Umm, to the best of my knowledge that is like saying 'we would like to predict the future'. On top of that humans so far have a bad track record at predicting climate at all even a few weeks ahead.
So I feel like we should not even be asking this question. Instead we should focus on how the climate has been effected so far (hottest year in recorded history, drought in California, unreliable seasons for crops etc) and make changes because of that.
Assuming even if current state continues, we will soon run out of food and water.
Climate change has always been coming and here. That’s what it is, changing. No one actually argues this.
I think you mean man made crisis. But, was it man made crisis in 1937 when the previous record was set? Why was that just cyclic or random weather event but this has to be a smoking gun?
It not effective to ”weather isn’t climate… unless it’s used to argue climate change”. That isn’t helpful. Holding up a snowball or pointing at rain is just a shallow reinforcement to people that don’t really understand the topic and that goes both ways.
Instead maybe be helpful and put together the temperature trend for that city over 100 years if you want to get people on board the idea that it’s rapid warming. Or discuss non-political solutions. Or try to not bandwagon finger wag for what should be a level-headed discussion.
> “This year, we have seen again and again the profound effect that climate change has on our communities — from historic drought in the west to flooding events.“
But this is being caused by agricultural runoff, not carbon emissions. It’s also not clear how I it affects the weather.
Seems “climate change” has become a buzzword for any type of pollution.
I couldn't have put it better myself. And thanks for pointing out that climate change is an issue. I got really, really tired of people saying "gee, this sure is an unusually hot summer. Just like the last one, and the one before that, and the one before that" and yet thinking of climate change as unsettled science. Before weatherspark got rid of their dashboard I could show them that summers in SD ARE definitively hotter than they have been in ages (though there was a hot stretch in the late 70's).
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