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I believe that is a self-conflicting proposition, since I believe morality is a subjective "property"


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morality is subjective


Morality is subjective, maybe its wrong to you but may not wrong for me.

The morality of both of them is subjective.

But morality is just as subjective.

You seem to be implying that morality is subjective, which I think is a dangerous belief. People may believe their actions are ethical, but that doesn’t necessarily make them correct.

morality is subjective

If morality is subjective is itself up for debate. I personally think morality is absolute. There is only one system of morality which isn't arbitrary and allowing morals to be arbitrary strips the word of any meaning.

morality is subjective, so chose for yourself? ;)

I also believe in objective morality, I believe forcing your subjective beliefs on other people is immoral. Therefore in my system you are immoral.

Plus morality is highly subjective and beliefs on what is moral varies by individual.

You said it depended on "your" (which I took to mean "ones own" rather than specifically referring to "me") ethical system. If there is an absolute morality, then the morality of any given action is not dependent upon the morality subscribed to by the actor.

[edit] Furthermore any statement about an action being moral or immoral that doesn't explicitly reference a moral system is implicitly assuming a moral system. I find "It is my belief that X is moral" to be stylistically inferior to "X is moral" and clearly the former is a factual statement, while the later is a statement of opinion. HN is a discussion forum in which stating opinions is acceptable, so I use the terser, stronger statement of opinion preferably to the more verbose factual statement.


Morals are subjective.

I believe it's a morality thing.

Personal morality is bad, in my opinion.

I'm not sure that's relevant to whether you personally find it moral. This conversation could exist from a personal perspective of what you find moral.

That said, even if we all have different morals it seems they're mostly compatible.


Incorrect, on both counts. Especially the latter, because morality isn't absolute. What you think is a moral right can be different from what I think is a moral right.

They don't have to be objective or subjective. I've never understood the argument that morals are individually subjective. If individual people freely did anything all the time then where would morals come from?

Possibly. I get the notion that there are very different understandings about what constitutes morality.

No, it's about (being consistent with one's own) morality.
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